General Medicine Entry Discussion and Advice Requests

[mnv]

Applying for: Medicine/Dent
Application Type: School leaver
ATAR: 98.50
UCAT Percentile Rank:
VR/DM/QR/AR: 650, 690, 790, 900
Total: 3030
SJ: 596
Current State: VIC
Applying to: all universities
Rural Applicant: no
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Other: no
Specific Question: I have applied for Vtac ( first 3 options are from Monash), UQ, JCU, Griffith, UoA, UTas. I haven’t applied for UAC yet. which university I might have small chance in NSW? I know my Atar and Ucat quite low for Monash Med, how about Dent, do I have a good chance?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Applying for: Medicine/Dent
Application Type: School leaver
ATAR: 98.50
UCAT Percentile Rank:
VR/DM/QR/AR: 650, 690, 790, 900
Total: 3030
SJ: 596
Current State: VIC
Applying to: all universities
Rural Applicant: no
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Other: no
Specific Question: I have applied for Vtac ( first 3 options are from Monash), UQ, JCU, Griffith, UoA, UTas. I haven’t applied for UAC yet. which university I might have small chance in NSW? I know my Atar and Ucat quite low for Monash Med, how about Dent, do I have a good chance?

Post UCAT Discussion 2024

Hi guys, just did my UCAT yesterday VR: 760 DM: 780 QR: 890 AR: 730 Total: 3160 SJ: 645 JPM/WSU formula (2xVR + Total) / 6: 653.33 780 (edited by A1) Predicted/Actual ATAR/GPA: Above 99, please tell me what i need to aim for!! Rural: NO State: NSW Other Special Considerations: (inc. GWS, EAS...

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That’s for med.

A1 and I are less versed in Dent requirements.

 

[night owl]

Hi all,
I'm a current Y12 who is desperate for guidance. My heart is set on med but will consider dent. No chemistry(so out of contention for Unis with Chem as prerequisites I think ) nonRural Applicant: nonGWS Applicant. Did not sit Casper.
UCAT: VR/DM/QR/AR: 710, 760, 720, 810 Total: 3000
Predicted ATAR: 99+
Current State: NSW, willing to go anywhere
Specific Questions:
1. realistic chances for med interview invites? UNSW, WSU, UoN, UWA, UQ, Griffiths, CSQ, Adelaide, etc?
2. Dentistry ?
3. Will selecting bonded spots increase chances but remain in contention for unbonded spots?
4. How many rounds of interview offers ?
5. When do we find out about interviews ? I'm keen to not waste preferences on UAC

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi all,
I'm a current Y12 who is desperate for guidance. My heart is set on med but will consider dent. No chemistry(so out of contention for Unis with Chem as prerequisites I think ) nonRural Applicant: nonGWS Applicant. Did not sit Casper.
UCAT: VR/DM/QR/AR: 710, 760, 720, 810 Total: 3000
Predicted ATAR: 99+
Current State: NSW, willing to go anywhere
Specific Questions:
1. realistic chances for med interview invites? UNSW, WSU, UoN, UWA, UQ, Griffiths, CSQ, Adelaide, etc?
2. Dentistry ?
3. Will selecting bonded spots increase chances but remain in contention for unbonded spots?
4. How many rounds of interview offers ?
5. When do we find out about interviews ? I'm keen to not waste preferences on UAC

1. It will likely depend how high that 99+ ends up being as you’ll need to rely on unis that emphasise ATAR unfortunately (ie. Griffith). FFP Bond will give you a psychometric test invite.
2. No idea sorry
3. Yes, but to remain in contention for a non-bonded spot you need to choose both options if they are separated
4. Depends
5. You need to put the courses into UAC (or other) initially in order to be eligible for an interview so you can’t help but ‘waste’ spots. You can remove them after you don’t get an interview. I mean, unfortunately your UCAT means you’re highly unlikely to get an interview for JMP or JPM, and UNSW will need a high 99 ATAR I’d think. But none of these unis release exact requirements prior to invites going out (understandably given they don’t know the requirements yet), and so it’d be up to you to decide if you wanted to throw your hat in the ring on the off chance.

Other: if your ATAR ends up being in the low 99s the reality is you may not be competitive for med as a year 12 leaver, but there are so many other pathways to get there so make sure you have a back up plan

See the link above for a rough guide to med requirements

 

[AnubisHorus&Ra]

Adding on: There's only 2 dental schools in NSW (from what I know)
- CSU (Charles Sturt University)
and
- University of Sydney.

SydneyU is a non-school leaver admission requiring GAMSAT and GPA. Instantly not eligible.
CSU is a possibility. There is only one school leaver in 2024 admission who did not receive entry via UCAT pathway. Possible, but slim chances. If you've got spots left in your preferences, you can always put down UQ dent, JCU dent, La Trobe dent, Adelaide Dent etc.
Honestly, at least for UQ and Adelaide, a low 3000 UCAT would be marginally competitive, but by no means on the higher end. A rural uni like La trobe or CSU, the chances are higher since the applicant pool is smaller, but you'd be competing with lateral transfers.

*Disclaimer* Those aren't all the schools, just the ones off the top of my head.

 

[w3a]

Hello everyone, i'm very keen on pursuing medicine through the undergraduate pathway. For context, im a current year 12 student based in Sydney and my predicted atar will not be enough for me to get into med. I also didn't sit the UCAT this year.
I'd appreciate advice on whether I should go the non-standard applicant route or repeat year 12 to increase my atar and sit the UCAT next year.
Which pathway would increase my chances of pursuing med? Would repeating hinder my application? Any advise is much appreciated, Thanks

 

[2xq]

Hello everyone, i'm very keen on pursuing medicine through the undergraduate pathway. For context, im a current year 12 student based in Sydney and my predicted atar will not be enough for me to get into med. I also didn't sit the UCAT this year.
I'd appreciate advice on whether I should go the non-standard applicant route or repeat year 12 to increase my atar and sit the UCAT next year.
Which pathway would increase my chances of pursuing med? Would repeating hinder my application? Any advise is much appreciated, Thanks

general consensus - non-standard to work towards something else rather than being stuck at one point

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hello everyone, i'm very keen on pursuing medicine through the undergraduate pathway. For context, im a current year 12 student based in Sydney and my predicted atar will not be enough for me to get into med. I also didn't sit the UCAT this year.
I'd appreciate advice on whether I should go the non-standard applicant route or repeat year 12 to increase my atar and sit the UCAT next year.
Which pathway would increase my chances of pursuing med? Would repeating hinder my application? Any advise is much appreciated, Thanks

Adding to the reply you’ve already received, all the NSW unis with the exception of USyd (which would need 99.95 anyway) accept non-standard applicants without prejudice/unhelpful quotas. If you’re keen to stay NSW-based, non-standard entry is a no brainer.

 

[richbabyh1tman]

Hello, I am currently a year 12 student in New Zealand and I am considering going to Australia for med school.
I am picking my subjects for next year, year 13, and was wondering whether I need to have English as a subject specially or could I just have an English rich subject i.e history. Would picking history make a difference in my ATAR score wrt selecting English. Also do Australian med schools specifically require me to take English as subject?

Hi, I am an NZ student in y13 applying for entry into Aus next year.

Assuming you are talking about NCEA I would say it is pretty much mandatory to take English at L3, both because I suspect an "English-rich" subject doesn't cut it for an English subject requirement, and because it is highly weighted for the NCEA to ATAR conversion. It would definitely make a difference in your ATAR.

 

[CHStar]

Iirc this pathway^ is only for rural applicants.
Selection is 30% ATAR 70% MMI so there won't be another interview before commencing UMelb MD.

(Since you mentioned provisional, provisional offers at other unis have passed through an interview except UMelb Chancellor's).

Does anyone know how many students they take per year into this course? Has anyone received an offer for an interview yet?

 

[A1]

Does anyone know how many students they take per year into this course?

Iirc UMelb has "donated" 30 rural places to this pathway.
Also iirc there are two separate unis/campuses, so maybe 15 each.

 

[CHStar]

Iirc UMelb has "donated" 30 rural places to this pathway.
Also iirc there are two separate unis/campuses, so maybe 15 each.

That’s really interesting. Thank you. The only challenge I see here is finding accommodation a d getting in to campus accommodation as a first year,

Iirc UMelb has "donated" 30 rural places to this pathway.
Also iirc there are two separate unis/campuses, so maybe 15 each.

Is anyone currently on this course at La Trobe studying B Biomedical Science (medical) with the guaranteed pathway in to D Medicine, who can provide any feedback about it? Has anyone here been offered an interview for the course, to enter next year?

 

[Blue_14]

To clarify, technically, there are 30 total places. However, Latrobe's bachelor of biomedical science (medical) pathway only has 15 places. The other 15 are for students who've done an undergrad degree and then apply directly to the University of Melbourne. These 30 then make up the cohort for the doctor of medicine via Uni of Melbourne's rural pathway.


*****Also, I've got a conditional interview offer via Aspire for the interview.

 

[A1]

To clarify, technically, there are 30 total places. However, Latrobe's bachelor of biomedical science (medical) pathway only has 15 places. The other 15 are for students who've done an undergrad degree and then apply directly to the University of Melbourne.

Thanks for the info, the Gemsas Guide agrees with this^.

I'm curious though - LaTrobe BBiomedSc(Medical) webpage lists two campuses Albury & Bendigo. Does that mean only 7-8 students at each campus?

 

[CHStar]

To clarify, technically, there are 30 total places. However, Latrobe's bachelor of biomedical science (medical) pathway only has 15 places. The other 15 are for students who've done an undergrad degree and then apply directly to the University of Melbourne. These 30 then make up the cohort for the doctor of medicine via Uni of Melbourne's rural pathway.


*****Also, I've got a conditional interview offer via Aspire for the interview.

Congratulations!

If a student does get a spot in the Aspire rural b biomedical science (medical), I wonder if they can choose whether they go to Albury or Bendigo?

 

[Blue_14]

Thanks for the info, the Gemsas Guide agrees with this^.

I'm curious though - LaTrobe BBiomedSc(Medical) webpage lists two campuses Albury & Bendigo. Does that mean only 7-8 students at each campus?

Possibly. However, I'm not too sure. I've tried asking Latrobe about it, but they just say that this course has a really small and competitive cohort.

Congratulations!

If a student does get a spot in the Aspire rural b biomedical science (medical), I wonder if they can choose whether they go to Albury or Bendigo?

Regarding choosing between Albury and Bendigo, you would have to choose this when putting in your preferences on vtac or uac. Where, Albury and Bendigo come up as two different preferences.

 

[ladgrod]

now that ucat percentiles are out, does anyone know what the cutoff is likely to be for newcastle? ive heard that in past years my score of 3140 is right on the threshold- this year it is 93rd percentile- will it still be within the threshold this year? also considering i have eas special consideration.
thank you!!!

 

[richbabyh1tman]

now that ucat percentiles are out, does anyone know what the cutoff is likely to be for newcastle? ive heard that in past years my score of 3140 is right on the threshold- this year it is 93rd percentile- will it still be within the threshold this year? also considering i have eas special consideration.
thank you!!!

jmp cutoff was 3160 last yr, eas is only for atar. With percentiles increasing by 60 it is pretty much impossible for the jmp cutoff to go down, sorry.

 

[hmk]

hii so i screwed up trials because it was right after my ucat, and my predicted atar dropped from a 95.05 to a 94.2. i played around with what scores i need to move up to a 96, i just don’t know if these are the marks i need in the hsc, or do i need to be doing better than that because internals will pull me down? Im just not really understanding if predicted atar is based on what would happen if i got these same scores in the hsc, or if they are letting me know how much my internals will pull me down. i go to a top 5 selective school if that makes a difference, but basically i would really appreciate if anyone has any idea how much it’s physically possible for me to push my atar up? all i need is a 95.5 but is a 99 impossible? thank youu so muchh

 

[A1]

hii so i screwed up trials because it was right after my ucat, and my predicted atar dropped from a 95.05 to a 94.2. i played around with what scores i need to move up to a 96, i just don’t know if these are the marks i need in the hsc, or do i need to be doing better than that because internals will pull me down? Im just not really understanding if predicted atar is based on what would happen if i got these same scores in the hsc, or if they are letting me know how much my internals will pull me down. i go to a top 5 selective school if that makes a difference, but basically i would really appreciate if anyone has any idea how much it’s physically possible for me to push my atar up? all i need is a 95.5 but is a 99 impossible? thank youu so muchh

The predicted ATAR reflects your internal marks.

ATAR 99 doesn't look possible from predicted 95. According to UAC data average subject marks for 95 is 81, for 99 is 90.
Which means with 81 internal you will need 99 marks per subject external to get (81+99)/2 = 90 HSC for ATAR 99.

But ATAR 96 is entirely possible if you get average 85-86 marks per subject external.
(Note these marks are indicative for a rough idea only, because there's scaling involved).