General Medicine Entry Discussion and Advice Requests

[Zeina]

Hi, I am currently a year 12 student. I was just wondering if anyone had a list of all the different unis/pathways that you can get into undergrad or provisional entry med with a low UCAT. I know about JCU and griffith and USyd, but was just wondering if there's any more. This is also my 4th year living in a regional area and I know rural benefits need 5 years or more. Anyone know if there's any way to get some benefits still or unis that don't need 5 years?

 

[AnubisHorus&Ra]

Can you give us a rough estimate of your Atar and a ballpark of what you expect out of the ucat? Low can mean anything from 1000s to 3000s and I'm not sure where you sit.

 

[Zeina]

Can you give us a rough estimate of your Atar and a ballpark of what you expect out of the ucat? Low can mean anything from 1000s to 3000s and I'm not sure where you sit.

I am currently sitting at full marks for IA1-IA2 I’m hoping for my atar to be 99+. And Ucat my latest mock on (xxxxxx) was 2080/2700 which I guess might be good for rutal but I am not technically considered one.

 

[A1]

Hi, I am currently a year 12 student. I was just wondering if anyone had a list of all the different unis/pathways that you can get into undergrad or provisional entry med with a low UCAT. I know about JCU and griffith and USyd, but was just wondering if there's any more. This is also my 4th year living in a regional area and I know rural benefits need 5 years or more. Anyone know if there's any way to get some benefits still or unis that don't need 5 years?

JCU will count your 4 years rural as 4 years, unlike other schools counting it zero until you reach 5 years. With 99+ you should have reasonable chances there.

Apart from Griffith, USC, UMelb, USyd that you will need 99.85 to 99.95, another chance is a school that favours local applicants. Like WSU for GWS, Monash for Vic, Adelaide for SA, UTas for Tas, UWA/Curtin for WA. For these you need around 85-90 %ile UCAT approx 2200-2300 / 2700.

 

[sanhuamao]

Hi guys, I am currently a yr13 student in NZ studying A-levels. I was just wondering since A level results come out mid/early Jan, would I only be able to get second round offers? or is it similar to NCEA where NZQA sends provisional marks to unis? Thanks so much!

 

[drpmaman]

Hi I noticed on UAC today they may have a special entry scheme for Elite athetes. Does anyone know what elite actually means?

 

[A1]

Hi I noticed on UAC today they may have a special entry scheme for Elite athetes. Does anyone know what elite actually means?

Since the info is from UAC, you need to check whether it's applicable to the individual med schools.
Not all UAC incentive schemes are accepted for the very competitive admissions like medicine, dentistry...

 

[jeandawson]

I'm a NSW high school graduate of 2024. I didn't try for UCAT last year and I performed poorly on my UCAT this year. Does anybody know how many years my ATAR is still valid for for undergrad Med if I retry again next year?

 

[A1]

I'm a NSW high school graduate of 2024. I didn't try for UCAT last year and I performed poorly on my UCAT this year. Does anybody know how many years my ATAR is still valid for for undergrad Med if I retry again next year?

Couple of med schools have a 2-year validity for ATAR, like Monash and one other school I don't remember which (maybe UQ?).

If you have or will start uni you'll be a non-standard applicant. None of the schools accepting non-standards imposes a validity period.
It's just not used after you have completed 1+ year uni (for JMP) or completed a degree (for UNSW & WSU).

 

[Frog_0225]

Hey can anyone inform me on the credibility of WSU? How does it compare to other medical school? Does it provide good education, can any WSU students provide their opinion? Would appreciate it alot!

Thanks!

 

[AnubisHorus&Ra]

Hey can anyone inform me on the credibility of WSU? How does it compare to other medical school? Does it provide good education, can any WSU students provide their opinion? Would appreciate it alot!

Thanks!

WSU's program is a JPM with CSU. All medical schools need to be accredited, so irrespective of how different the courses are from uni to uni, there's no such thing as a 'bad' medical school becuase again, they all need to be regulated strictly. Based on what I've seen of the CSU students, the education is solid with practice cases to form preliminary diagnoses and a tightknit group that enjoys a good party. It might not be the creme de la creme of medical schools, but it's not an offer you'd want to turn down if you've only got one offer available to you.

 

[Frog_0225]

WSU's program is a JPM with CSU. All medical schools need to be accredited, so irrespective of how different the courses are from uni to uni, there's no such thing as a 'bad' medical school becuase again, they all need to be regulated strictly. Based on what I've seen of the CSU students, the education is solid with practice cases to form preliminary diagnoses and a tightknit group that enjoys a good party. It might not be the creme de la creme of medical schools, but it's not an offer you'd want to turn down if you've only got one offer available to you.

I am having a hard time choosing between WSU and Griffith, my WSU deposit is due 25th of July, at the same time I am also taking the UCAT in 2 days. Where would you guys recommend?

For context: I am a international.

Appreciate it!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I am having a hard time choosing between WSU and Griffith, my WSU deposit is due 25th of July, at the same time I am also taking the UCAT in 2 days. Where would you guys recommend?

For context: I am a international.

Appreciate it!

Choosing Between Universities and Offers

Hi everyone, I graduated from Year 12 last year and I decided to take a gap year this year to re-do my UMAT and do some volunteering. I have my heart set on medicine. However, I am unsure where I should put UWA (bonded and unbonded) and Curtin in my preferences in my uni application. These are...

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[UnknownShell]

Second year undergrad/provisional entry student here. The general consensus among the medical students at our university is that the Undergraduate degree is widely a joke. We have studied/written assignments on basic chemistry titrations every semester so far, been taught transcription and translation every semester over and over, and the only courses that have been new information since high school have been Physiology and Anatomy. The universities health faculty has an absurd HD rate, something like the majority of students.
There's also no clinical practical element, which I understand is mostly common across provisional degrees in the bachelor/MD structure. None of us feel challenged, and some feel as though they have gone backward since graduating high school. It really feels as though the university is setting us up for failure in the MD.
Anyways, questions are:
What are the experiences like at other universities?
Is this a common experience?
Any advice or criticism is welcome.

 

[A1]

None of us feel challenged, and some feel as though they have gone backward since graduating high school. It really feels as though the university is setting us up for failure in the MD.
Is this a common experience?

The underlying factor is MD is a Masters degree. By Aus Qualifications Framework AQF definitions it requires an undergrad degree to enter.

Second reason - the MD (at the provisional/grad-entry schools) is designed to teach medicine from the ground up. The undergrad degree can be anything, not necessarily anything medicine.

You should have known of that when you accepted a provisional offer. Shouldn't be crticising them for not teaching you any med/clinical in the undergrad.

The general consensus among the medical students at our university is that the Undergraduate degree is widely a joke.

This^ is another bit you've got wrong. As an undergrad provisional you are NOT a medicine student, academically or legally.

 

[AnubisHorus&Ra]

Second reason - the MD (at the provisional/grad-entry schools) is designed to teach medicine from the ground up. The undergrad degree can be anything, not necessarily anything medicine.

Agreeable. UQ has some prov med students taking dentistry as undergrad (Conditional to being accepted into both programs). If the quest was for a challenge or lab/ clinical work, a different undergrad could have been negotiated. The expectations are usually outlined very clearly. Most degrees usually also start from the ground up, so they teach basic things and progressively get more complex to fill the gaps for students who've done less science etc. in the past even if you're in prov med. If you're finding that everything is too easy, its a good opportunity to go and shadow or fill your time with finding something that would be of assistance in your masters.

 

[DTY]

Hey guys as a WA applicant with
ATAR: 97.75 + EAS
UCAT: 2280
Casper: 4th Quartile
What do u reckon my chances are for interviews and offers for Curtin and UWA?

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A1 replies: UWA requires ATAR 98+. If EAS allows you to meet this then 2280 is more than enough to get a UWA interview for WA local.
See the good post below for Curtin
> Post-UCAT Discussion 2025

 

[ucatboy]

Second year undergrad/provisional entry student here. The general consensus among the medical students at our university is that the Undergraduate degree is widely a joke. We have studied/written assignments on basic chemistry titrations every semester so far, been taught transcription and translation every semester over and over, and the only courses that have been new information since high school have been Physiology and Anatomy. The universities health faculty has an absurd HD rate, something like the majority of students.
There's also no clinical practical element, which I understand is mostly common across provisional degrees in the bachelor/MD structure. None of us feel challenged, and some feel as though they have gone backward since graduating high school. It really feels as though the university is setting us up for failure in the MD.
Anyways, questions are:
What are the experiences like at other universities?
Is this a common experience?
Any advice or criticism is welcome.

Flinders?

 

[wins3j2]

Is anyone's JMP application not working? After the "rural or standard" page it comes up with an error page for me. It's very early but would like to hear from others

 

[aspiringdoctor1]

Is anyone's JMP application not working? After the "rural or standard" page it comes up with an error page for me. It's very early but would like to hear from others

yes i experienced the same