Interview offers & dates 2016-17

[ImGreyt]

98.05 & 94%ile : around 20-25% chance
98.95 & 174 (that's around 85%ile isn't it?) : 25-30%

98.7 bumped to mid-99s & 199 : 70-80%



UNSW : 60-70% chance, Monash : 70-80%

Sorry I'm not a good person to give interview advice, I struggled through them myself. I only know the standard things like be pleasant, speak with confidence and project a positive image of yourself.

I'm sorry but where are you getting these figures from because you've just told 2 people with scores that are very high that they only have a 70-80% chance. I know that no one can be assured of 100% chance but the figures you gave just seem odd, maybe @lifeofpi could shed some light?

 

[A1]

For someone who struggled through interview A1 you seemed to have gotten quite a few offers
Monash, UWA, UNSW...
like top unis in each respective state. You must have done well in the interviews

Naahh my good ATAR & UMAT carried me. I estimated I only needed 10-20%ile interview to get UNSW & Monash. Where it was interview heavy like Adel I failed.

 

[A1]

I'm sorry but where are you getting these figures from because you've just told 2 people with scores that are very high that they only have a 70-80% chance.

Their scores are high but not very high. Mid-99s is ten notches below 99.95 (and there are dozens of them in the interview rounds), 99%ile is several notches below 100%ile & 100+%ile.

I had 99.80 & a high-end 100%ile, would you have given me 100% chance?
Presumably no, so if you give me 90% chance then 99.50 & 99%ile should be 70-80%.

(I can explain the 100+%ile if you are curious).

 

[ImGreyt]

Their scores are high but not very high. Mid-99s is ten notches below 99.95, 99%ile is several notches below 100%ile & 100+%ile.

I had 99.80 & a high-end 100%ile, would you have given me 100% chance?
Presumably no, so if you give me 90% chance then 99.50 & 99%ile should be 70-80%.

(I can explain the 100+%ile if you are curious).

I wouldn't of given you 100% but very close too, even though their scores aren't 99.95 and 100% you have to realise that not everyone can get those scores and out of the people that do not all of them get both 99.95 and 100 usually one of the other. And of those that do get 99.95 not all of them want to do med and not all of them want to go to Monash. So what I'm trying to say is that there are about 180 spots (not including erc and interstate) and getting a umat 98%+ would put them in the top 150 or so from VIC and getting an atar 99.5+ would put them in top 250 of all VIC students, now removing the students that don't wanna do undergrad med that maybe puts them in top 150 (I don't really know what percentage of people that get a high atar also want to undergrad med so this was just a guess that 3 in 5 do) this is also assuming that everyone that did will on atar also did well on umat then she is in top 150 applicants looking for 180 spots. Not including the interview I'd say that the chances are much higher than 70-80%.

 

[Wendy]

I wouldn't of given you 100% but very close too, even though their scores aren't 99.95 and 100% you have to realise that not everyone can get those scores and out of the people that do not all of them get both 99.95 and 100 usually one of the other. And of those that do get 99.95 not all of them want to do med and not all of them want to go to Monash. So what I'm trying to say is that there are about 180 spots (not including erc and interstate) and getting a umat 98%+ would put them in the top 150 or so from VIC and getting an atar 99.5+ would put them in top 250 of all VIC students, now removing the students that don't wanna do undergrad med that maybe puts them in top 150 (I don't really know what percentage of people that get a high atar also want to undergrad med so this was just a guess that 3 in 5 do) this is also assuming that everyone that did will on atar also did well on umat then she is in top 150 applicants looking for 180 spots. Not including the interview I'd say that the chances are much higher than 70-80%.

However, there are numerous interstate applicants who are quite as competitive as I am...

 

[ImGreyt]

However, there are numerous interstate applicants who are quite as competitive as I am...

Majority of interstate applicants with scores as competitive as yours will get into the course in their home state so will not actually go to Monash unless they are really passionate about Monash for some reason

 

[A1]

then she is in top 150 applicants looking for 180 spots.

I would think after taking out ERC, DRL & Interstate it's about 150 spots for standard Vic applicants. If she's in the lower end of the top 150, a poorer interview would drop her out. That's the purpose of my chance estimate i.e. the risk of her being outscored in the interview & displaced by those just below her.

Not including the interview I'd say that the chances are much higher than 70-80%.

Why would you give a chance estimate without including the potential effect of the interview?
As I see it, not including the interview their chances would be either 100% or 0%, nothing in between.

 

[ImGreyt]

Why would you give a chance estimate without including the effect of the interview?
As I see it, not including the interview their chances would be either 100% or 0%, nothing in between.

Well that's what I mean, why put a number on it when you have no way of knowing what her interview skills are

 

[jebhank123]

I would be very concerned that 99.25/98%ile has not heard anything from Unsw. At least you should have received an email saying you are above interview cutoff but wait for confirmation for the 24-Jan interview.

Suggest you call Mr David Boothey of Unsw Med urgently (google for his phone number, I keep mentioning his name here because not only he is super helpful but also says in the video feel free to call him no matter how ridiculous the question).

Another update, I've gotten a response saying that two emails were sent but I failed to book an interview and therefore will not be considered for the course - maybe some email glitch because I definitely did not receive any such email. Any recommendations?

 

[Wendy]

I would think after taking out ERC, DRL & Interstate it's about 150 spots for standard Vic applicants.

Hey A1. I thought Extended Rural Cohort was a stream like unbonded and bonded where non-rural students and rural students alike could potentially get an offer for....
Or are ERC reserved for rural students only?

 

[mary poppins]

Another update, I've gotten a response saying that two emails were sent but I failed to book an interview and therefore will not be considered for the course - maybe some email glitch because I definitely did not receive any such email. Any recommendations?

check the email address you sent them, check the email address they sent it too. show a prinout of received emails and junk box emails over that period and plead your case. Try to identify where the problem occurred. Alot is at stake so trying your hardest to sort it out will only be of benefit to you. Good luck

 

[A1]

Another update, I've gotten a response saying that two emails were sent but I failed to book an interview and therefore will not be considered for the course - maybe some email glitch because I definitely did not receive any such email. Any recommendations?

As Mary said, see if you can show it wasn't your fault not seeing the emails.
If you can't then beg UNSW for kindness to give you an interview on 24th.

 

[A1]

Well that's what I mean, why put a number on it when you have no way of knowing what her interview skills are

In the interview offers UNSW gave interstate applicants like @MedDent & myself a percentage chance estimate, without knowing what our interview skills were.

 

[Wendy]

TBH I consider myself a chance of 0 on getting into Monash until I get an offer...I feel like there's no use on brooding over the percentage and one should just do one's best
I'll be content with either Flinders or UQ which I can probably get into considering there is no interview component...

 

[DrDrLMG!]

TBH I consider myself a chance of 0 on getting into Monash until I get an offer...I feel like there's no use on brooding over the percentage and one should just do one's best
I'll be content with either Flinders or UQ which I can probably get into considering there is no interview component...

To be fair (and I absolutely recognise it wasn't you questioning the method), you did ask A1 to calculate your Monash chances (and those of your friends) so that's what he did...

 

[Wendy]

To be fair (and I absolutely recognise it wasn't you questioning the method), you did ask A1 to calculate your Monash chances (and those of your friends) so that's what he did...

I know thanks LMG. I was just trying to move away from the discussion, because to be honest neither A1 or ImGreyt really know the chances unless I get an offer or I don't
Thanks A1 for calculating my chances I do appreciate it

 

[ImGreyt]

Yeah I agree, I think we shouldn't be putting numbers on it when no one really knows anyone's chances as it can definitely have a negative effect of making people think they won't get in and losing confidence or also giving people false hope so maybe in future just use general terms such as likely, really likely, etc

 

[A1]

Hey A1. I thought Extended Rural Cohort was a stream like unbonded and bonded where non-rural students and rural students alike could potentially get an offer for....
Or are ERC reserved for rural students only?

No it's not for rural applicants only. ERC has a separate VTAC Course Code which you (and others including non-rural) must put into the VTAC pref list to be in the running for. Due to its 3 years studying in northern Vic some don't choose it, most of those who choose it pref it below CSP & BMP resulting in a lower cutoff (i.e. you only get to ERC after not making CSP & BMP).

Extremely good news for DRL interviewees - I found this document which says Monash is required to fill 25% = ~60 places with rural students, but only 60 to 80 are interviewed. You are almost guaranteed of a place just by turning up
> https://med.monash.edu.au/medical/central/docs/deans-rural-list-flyer.pdf

Btw that's the 2014 doc, the 2016 doc says it gonna get even better: increasing by 2018 to 27% = 65 places while still interviewing 60 to 80
> https://www.med.monash.edu.au/medicine/admissions/documents/dil-drl-july-2016-web.pdf

 

[DavidK]

Extremely good news for DRL interviewees - I found this document which says Monash is required to fill 25% = ~60 places with rural students, but only 60 to 80 are interviewed. You are almost guaranteed of a place just by turning up
> https://med.monash.edu.au/medical/central/docs/deans-rural-list-flyer.pdf

It says 60 to 80 people who are under the standard faculty determined cutoff were interviewed meaning there are more people who were interviewed as a part of the DRL who actually could have made the standard faculty determined cutoff.

 

[Mana]

It says 60 to 80 people who are under the standard faculty determined cutoff were interviewed meaning there are more people who were interviewed as a part of the DRL who actually could have made the standard faculty determined cutoff.

This is possible, but incredibly rare, that someone who qualified for DRL would also have made the cutoff for non-DRL.