Med and Dent - 2018 Entry (Place Offers and Discussion)

[Nikko]

This is exactly what I was trying to say the other day, but got told I was wrong. As far as I’m aware, JMP don’t make general second round offers to individuals. If you’ve been eligible for an offer in an earlier round, but missed out for whatever reason (preferencing or not being competitive), you won’t be considered in later rounds. Later rounds are for people who’ve yet to complete their interview, but will have by then.

Some top up offers (usually via phone) will be made after this to people who missed out in earlier rounds.

That’s my understanding, but I was told this is not the case. And it may not be... it’s just the impression I was given by a current JMP student who was imploring me to ensure JMP was my top preference for Jan round one as that would be my only chance.

LMG! , this was exactly what I was told when I rang them twice to clarify. They said specifically if you had not been offered in the Jan offer round last Friday, you would have no chance of getting into their medical school in 2018. The latter offer rounds are for applicants who have yet to go for their interviews.

Disappointed as I thought I did well for my interview but got to move on.

 

[pepper51]

Does JMP look at ATAR/GPA before or after the interviews have been done?

 

[GroovyDhruvy]

Just to add my piece,

Course Type: Med
Offer Received: Yes
University: UNSW
UMAT: 72nd percentile
ATAR: 98.85
Offer Type: Unbonded, Kensington Campus
Special Considerations: Rural
Other Information: School leaver

We bout to be classmates!!!!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Does JMP look at ATAR/GPA before or after the interviews have been done?

After interview invites have gone out. Interview is based on UMAT alone (they don't even look at predicted ATAR). It is therefore possible to be invited to interview, but not actually end up eligible due to academic hurdles not being met.

JMP uses ATAR/GPA and UMAT in order to give you an interview offer. Once you have interviewed your admission is entirely based on your interview performance.

Not quite. JMP uses UMAT only to give you an interview. You can be interviewed, and then deemed ineligible due to your academic results. It's a weird system! You're right in that offers are based entirely on interview and PQA performance, IF you go on to meet the academic hurdle.

 

[pepper51]

After interview invites have gone out. Interview is based on UMAT alone (they don't even look at predicted ATAR). It is therefore possible to be invited to interview, but not actually end up eligible due to academic hurdles not being met.



Not quite. JMP uses UMAT only to give you an interview. You can be interviewed, and then deemed ineligible due to your academic results. It's a weird system! You're right in that offers are based entirely on interview and PQA performance, IF you go on to meet the academic hurdle.

Can they offer you an interview and then reject you because of academics even before the interview has happened??

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Can they offer you an interview and then reject you because of academics even before the interview has happened??

Yes, given some interviews don't happen until late Jan, I guess this is definitely possible. I can't remember if it was JMP or another Uni, but I've definitely heard of people being contacted and told they were no longer eligible and didn't need to attend their interview but that they could if they wanted practice.

 

[biom]

Yes, given some interviews don't happen until late Jan, I guess this is definitely possible. I can't remember if it was JMP or another Uni, but I've definitely heard of people being contacted and told they were no longer eligible and didn't need to attend their interview but that they could if they wanted practice.

For the later interview rounds, UNSW has emailed candidates and told them that they have an x% chance of success, given their ATAR and UMAT, and the performance of those already interviewed. They have then suggested that the candidate consider whether they want to spend the time and money to come to the interview.

 

[Thots]

This was exactly me at JMP. Without giving too many details away, there was even one question where I kind of stared blankly at the interviewer and had a mini internal breakdown because I had no idea what to say!! We moved onto the next question because time ran out! HAHAHA! Trust me, I'm not downplaying anything! I think I killed it at WSU, there was nothing I would have changed, but JMP felt awkward and awful from start to finish

100% me at “station #2”!!!

 

[A1]

For the later interview rounds, UNSW has emailed candidates and told them that they have an x% chance of success, given their ATAR and UMAT, and the performance of those already interviewed. They have then suggested that the candidate consider whether they want to spend the time and money to come to the interview.

And this also explains why, for a small number of interstate applicants who had earlier received a provisional invite, it's possible that their mathematical chance is now <0% even with a top interview performance therefore they are no longer invited.
(For those who didn't see my explanation on this earlier)

 

[A1]

LMG! , this was exactly what I was told when I rang them twice to clarify. They said specifically if you had not been offered in the Jan offer round last Friday, you would have no chance of getting into their medical school in 2018.

Last year UAC second offer round was around Feb 2nd. Then on Feb 9th four people posted on MSO they received a JMP offer call, three of those did 1st round interviews.

 

[k4ps]

LMG! , this was exactly what I was told when I rang them twice to clarify. They said specifically if you had not been offered in the Jan offer round last Friday, you would have no chance of getting into their medical school in 2018. The latter offer rounds are for applicants who have yet to go for their interviews.

Disappointed as I thought I did well for my interview but got to move on.

Who did you call up? The lady who spoke to me said that there is a chance of a second round offer albeit a very slim chance. So I agree with A1, you may get an offer later on if you're at the top of those who didn't receive 1st round offers.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Last year UAC second offer round was around Feb 2nd. Then on Feb 9th four people posted on MSO they received a JMP offer call, three of those did 1st round interviews.

From what I can see (maybe we are looking at different things), UAC second round was 1st Feb, no one reported an offer until Yooxs got a phone call just after 10am on the 2nd. Three more applicants reported phone calls on the 10th.

All four were rural applicants.

Who did you call up? The lady who spoke to me said that there is a chance of a second round offer albeit a very slim chance. So I agree with A1, you may get an offer later on if you're at the top of those who didn't receive 1st round offers.

No one is disputing this, however it appears these offers are via phone call, not via UAC second round.

 

[cc000]

Hey, do you mind telling me what number you called? I called Medicine Program Inquiries and the person I spoke to said that they hadn't made a wait list and that all remaining places were only for interstate students (but this doesn't make any sense to me, since I don't think there is a specific quota for interstate offers).
Thanks

Hi,
I’m rural and I believe all rural interviews are done, so the wait list is just pretty much all the rural applicants ranked, and any offers that are turned down will be given to the person next on the list.
I called jessica on 93853677 because I’m rural, but first talked to Zara on 93852152 who was dealing with non rural applicants, she was really helpful and willing to give me info. Hope this helps!

 

[medengconfused]

And this also explains why, for a small number of interstate applicants who had earlier received a provisional invite, it's possible that their mathematical chance is now <0% even with a top interview performance therefore they are no longer invited.
(For those who didn't see my explanation on this earlier)

Huh! It's funny because I received two emails from UNSW (as I'm interstate) - one in November and one in January saying that my UMAT (nov) and ATAR + UMAT (Jan/maybe december I can't remember!) were above the cut off and that they would contact me about an interview (also said in the Nov one that if my scores weren't competitive enough in Jan/Dec I wouldn't receive a further offer as it would be difficult for me to gain a place) and I quote "it would not disadvantage you in any way".

UNSW wasn't and isn't my first preference for med anyways, but if that's true then I sort of wish they'd just mentioned this in the first place, and that it would be extremely unlikely to get an interview offer... (unless I'm getting confused, in which case, ignore me hahah)

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Huh! It's funny because I received two emails from UNSW (as I'm interstate) - one in November and one in January saying that my UMAT (nov) and ATAR + UMAT (Jan/maybe december I can't remember!) were above the cut off and that they would contact me about an interview (also said in the Nov one that if my scores weren't competitive enough in Jan/Dec I wouldn't receive a further offer as it would be difficult for me to gain a place) and I quote "it would not disadvantage you in any way".

UNSW wasn't and isn't my first preference for med anyways, but if that's true then I sort of wish they'd just mentioned this in the first place, and that it would be extremely unlikely to get an interview offer... (unless I'm getting confused, in which case, ignore me hahah)

I’d say most people who are told in Dec they will get an invite in Jan remain competitive. It’ll just be a few people who, now that UNSW have completed the majority of interviews and know what scores are required, can’t (due to their ATAR or UMAT) score high enough in the interview to be competitive. Those people are told this so they can save themselves some $$ in travel (as they are interstate).

 

[A1]

UNSW wasn't and isn't my first preference for med anyways, but if that's true then I sort of wish they'd just mentioned this in the first place, and that it would be extremely unlikely to get an interview offer... (unless I'm getting confused, in which case, ignore me hahah)

UNSW only works out whether an interstate applicant has >0 or <0% chance *after* having interviewed the NSW students and calculated their final results, i.e. back in Nov/Dec your ATAR+UMAT combo indicated you were above the interview cutoff but that alone did not equate to >0% chance in future.

In terms of "would not disadvantage you in any way", losing the invite this way does not mean you've been disadvantaged against NSW students - because of all NSW students with the same combo & having done their interviews, NONE of them got a place offer even with a top interview performance.

Edit - I've got two PMs asking what this^ means so I'll post an example:

Let's say a NSW student with (hypothetically) 98.0/90th %ile was given an interview in Dec. An interstate student with the same combo also was sent an email of potentially an interview.

After the NSW round of interviews it turns out that a large number of NSW students with better combos score high in their interviews and fill up the top third, to the extent that the NSW 98.0/90th given a top interview score is still below them.

This means the interstate 98.0/90th even going to the interview getting a top score will also be out of the top third for a place. In this sense taking the interview away does not cause them a disadvantage.

 

[VeronicaHoran]

When does Monash email successful people? Is it before or after 2pm VTAC offers time?

 

[Harry Warren]

Hi,
I’m rural and I believe all rural interviews are done, so the wait list is just pretty much all the rural applicants ranked, and any offers that are turned down will be given to the person next on the list.
I called jessica on 93853677 because I’m rural, but first talked to Zara on 93852152 who was dealing with non rural applicants, she was really helpful and willing to give me info. Hope this helps!

Thanks! All the best, and I hope you get your offer

 

[emyl1999]

I was just wondering if there's any data about how many local applicants get a second round offer for UNSW? I understand that it's very dependent on the year and the quality on the interstate applicants, but do we have an idea of whether they generally reserve too many interstate places?

 

[NDR]

Which number did you use?

46203928