Non-standard Medicine Entry

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi all, i am currently doing a biomed degree at bond university and was hoping to try and apply for non-standard entry for med next year. I current have a 3.125/4 gpa and got a ucat of 2880. Realistically, what university could I apply to, if any? Thanks for the help, its kinda confusing what unis have non-standard application from all the forums chats here .

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[Lazy_Penguin]

I think I’ve screwed my 2 years at uni up and basically threw 2 years down the drain. It’s sad how one bad year can have such a big impact on your grades. Honestly I don’t know what I can do at this point.

Do I finish and do a grad diploma?

Do I start another bachelors?

Do I give up on med altogether??

Reading through the data, my GPA or projected GPA for if I do well this semester is nowhere near the competitive GPAs of the past for JCU non-rural.

And my dream uni - Curtin - requires 80% minimum for a bachelor degree to apply, and due to last year, I won’t be able to raise my CWA high enough in time by the end of my degree. Even if I did well in a grad dip, if they still consider my bachelors it wouldn’t make a difference.

I wanted to hopefully try and get in while i am young enough to have a few peers around my age - that’s only if I was able to get in.

I don’t know what to do

If moving to Sydney is a possible consideration for you, it might be worthwhile sitting the GAMSAT. The university of Sydney has minimal GPA benchmarks (of the top of my head I think just need to be at or over 4.5 or 5 out of 7), no interview, and will provide offers based on a very high GAMSAT. Just something to consider, especially if you are naturally good at the humanities and social sciences as Sydney weights S1 and S2 very highly.

I am aware of many students who have gotten into medicine there with GPAs around 5.

 

[labrat279]

If moving to Sydney is a possible consideration for you, it might be worthwhile sitting the GAMSAT. The university of Sydney has minimal GPA benchmarks (of the top of my head I think just need to be at or over 4.5 or 5 out of 7), no interview, and will provide offers based on a very high GAMSAT. Just something to consider, especially if you are naturally good at the humanities and social sciences as Sydney weights S1 and S2 very highly.

I am aware of many students who have gotten into medicine there with GPAs around 5.

I'm honestly willing to do anything at this point. Thank you - I will look into this. I am going to sit both the GAMSAT and UCAT next year and reassess my options.

I am just disappointed because I used to be such a high-achieving student, but I pushed myself too far one year (year 11). I was trying to get the best predicted ATAR I could (ended up being 97.7 unofficially) and that honestly broke me I think.

Then, due to the pandemic, I took advantage of early offers and got 5 from all around Aus for either medical science/lab med and just took one because I was too tired to try anymore. Looking back, I think that I should have taken a gap year to de-stress.

But, there is nothing that I can do to change the past. I just need to focus on doing the best I can for now.

Does anyone know if I take single units from another uni, would they be counted towards my GPA? If they weren't able to get CRL for my current degree?

If moving to Sydney is a possible consideration for you, it might be worthwhile sitting the GAMSAT. The university of Sydney has minimal GPA benchmarks (of the top of my head I think just need to be at or over 4.5 or 5 out of 7), no interview, and will provide offers based on a very high GAMSAT. Just something to consider, especially if you are naturally good at the humanities and social sciences as Sydney weights S1 and S2 very highly.

I am aware of many students who have gotten into medicine there with GPAs around 5.

Were those students rural though? Or from sydney/nsw?

Idk my chances for interstate non-rural but we shall see in a year or so

 

[cherry19]

I think I’ve screwed my 2 years at uni up and basically threw 2 years down the drain. It’s sad how one bad year can have such a big impact on your grades. Honestly I don’t know what I can do at this point.

Do I finish and do a grad diploma?

Do I start another bachelors?

Do I give up on med altogether??

Reading through the data, my GPA or projected GPA for if I do well this semester is nowhere near the competitive GPAs of the past for JCU non-rural.

And my dream uni - Curtin - requires 80% minimum for a bachelor degree to apply, and due to last year, I won’t be able to raise my CWA high enough in time by the end of my degree. Even if I did well in a grad dip, if they still consider my bachelors it wouldn’t make a difference.

I wanted to hopefully try and get in while i am young enough to have a few peers around my age - that’s only if I was able to get in.

I don’t know what to do

You also have the option of applying to JMP (Newcastle/Armidale) in NSW. For incomplete bachelors degrees, you just need to meet the 4.7 GPA hurdle. Interviews are 100% on UCAT. Final offers are 100% on the interview.

Just another option to consider!

 

[Lazy_Penguin]

Were those students rural though? Or from sydney/nsw?

Idk my chances for interstate non-rural but we shall see in a year or so

There is a breakdown of offer data from previous years that has been collated on r/GAMSAT. The people I am aware of were non-rural. The GPA was just a threshold and if above the 5.0 or 4.5 does not actually contribute to calculations of an offer.

 

[Mozzarella911]

Hi there,

I'm trying to decided on reference letters for my JCU Medicine application. So far I have collected very decent letters from a clinical supervisor (from postgrad placements) and a doctor who I have worked with. What kind of reference should I be considering to add weight to my application for my third letter? I have year-old letters from community pharmacists and hospital admin who I have worked with in the past, but I'm not convinced they are a good option. Advice anyone?

Thanks in advance.

 

[mango111]

Hi all,

Can someone please explain the application process at JCU.. I am looking into applying at JCU's undergrad med program and I have previously completed a bachelors degree. I am looking at their application process, do they only require previous marks and that's all? Is there no requirement for UCAT or am I missing something here?

Thanks in advance

 

[Lazy_Penguin]

Hi all,

Can someone please explain the application process at JCU.. I am looking into applying at JCU's undergrad med program and I have previously completed a bachelors degree. I am looking at their application process, do they only require previous marks and that's all? Is there no requirement for UCAT or am I missing something here?

Thanks in advance

Hello,

Currently JCU only selects for interview from academic grades and letters of support (and rurality).

In previous years written applications were a big part of receiving an invite although this has recently been removed.

 

[mango111]

Hello,

Currently JCU only selects for interview from academic grades and letters of support (and rurality).

In previous years written applications were a big part of receiving an invite although this has recently been removed.

Hello,

Thank you for your response. Their application process says that you "can choose to also provide letters of support in the application portal." It sounds like it's not mandatory to submit one but I am not sure if by not submitting one would it dramatically reduce chances of receiving an invitation of interview? Or would they consider the letters when making final offers after the interviews? The selection criteria seems so vague :/

 

[Lazy_Penguin]

Hello,

Thank you for your response. Their application process says that you "can choose to also provide letters of support in the application portal." It sounds like it's not mandatory to submit one but I am not sure if by not submitting one would it dramatically reduce chances of receiving an invitation of interview? Or would they consider the letters when making final offers after the interviews? The selection criteria seems so vague :/

Haha yeah, JCU is particularly non-transparent when it comes to interview and final offer selection. There is no way to know so imo better to be safe than sorry and try and get the letters if can

 

[dghdhdh]

For 1st/2nd year entry medical science into medicine, does the university matter? For example, I am inclined to choose WSU medical science as the Campbelltown campus it is quite close to my house and I prefer the semester structure better than trimesters in UNSW/USYD. And apparently, their medical science course is more spread out than other uni's, which would be better for me. However, I noticed the ATAR threshold is 70 while its 91 in UNSW, I'm worried, will this impact my applications to different med courses later? Would some universities prefer students from UNSW and USYD over WSU due to its lower ATAR threshold? If I got a 6.8 GPA from WSU and 6.8 in UNSW, would universities regard it as different, and scale it differently?

 

[Choom]

Hi, this is my first time on the forum...

I am planning to do Med as a non-standard applicant, however, I saw from UNSW's website for example I require a minimum of a 96 ATAR to be eligible even for a non-standard application. Is there a specific reason for this or are there plans to change it? Or is there a certain period of time I require in my current course for that to no longer be applicable? Also can I apply via gateway entry to UNSW as a non-standard applicant, or is that only reserved for high school applicants?

And does this minimum ATAR requirement for non-standard applicants apply to any other Uni other than UNSW?


Cheers.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi, this is my first time on the forum...

I am planning to do Med as a non-standard applicant, however, I saw from UNSW's website for example I require a minimum of a 96 ATAR to be eligible even for a non-standard application. Is there a specific reason for this or are there plans to change it? Or is there a certain period of time I require in my current course for that to no longer be applicable? Also can I apply via gateway entry to UNSW as a non-standard applicant, or is that only reserved for high school applicants?

And does this minimum ATAR requirement for non-standard applicants apply to any other Uni other than UNSW?


Cheers.

No plans to change that we are currently aware, this (or a very similar version of it that had basically the same effect) has been in place for years, and it doesn’t expire. If your ATAR was below 96.00 you are not (and will not be for the foreseeable future) eligible for UNSW Med.

It doesn’t apply to any other non-standard Uni.

 

[coolbluefox]

Hey, I'm a current high school student going for HSFY in otago or biomed in auckland for first year. When I apply for med for 2nd year, I'm thinking of applying to aussie med schools as well.
Which universities accept these case as non-school leavers for undergraduate med??

Bond uni is one, it has the lowest academic requirement out of all aussie unis, however if you get in you'll have to pay around NZ
$480000, but you become a doctor in 4 years.

 

[ReptilianV]

Hey everyone, I have a really quick question!
Is anyone aware of the interview offer dates for non-standard med uni's?
Would it normally be in the summer for us or should we expect interviews to come out at the same time as those for regular school leavers?
I'm asking about these uni's specifically: WSU/CSU, JMP, JCU, UNSW
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[A1]

Hey everyone, I have a really quick question!
Is anyone aware of the interview offer dates for non-standard med uni's?
Would it normally be in the summer for us or should we expect interviews to come out at the same time as those for regular school leavers?
I'm asking about these uni's specifically: WSU/CSU, JMP, JCU, UNSW
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Interview invites are released on the same dates for non-standards & school leavers.

Many non-standards don't get JCU invites until December due to waiting for their semester2 results. But that's essentially the same for school leavers whose schools didn't submit their predicted ATAR (i.e. have to wait for their Dec actual ATAR).

 

[Mozzarella911]

Quick question. If we do get an interview offer for JCU, will it be via email or is there somewhere we should be checking?

 

[Lazy_Penguin]

Quick question. If we go get an interview offer for JCU, will it be via email or is there somewhere we should be checking?

It will be by email

 

[tz21894781927]

so is unsw undergrad students getting first round interviews this year for unsw if unsw releases results same time as atar this year, i heard last year they got 2nd round intervuew offers only

 

[Aspiringmed]

so is unsw undergrad students getting first round interviews this year for unsw if unsw releases results same time as atar this year, i heard last year they got 2nd round intervuew offers only

hard to tell but for students at UNSW their results come out the same day so it is possible!