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Offers UTAS 2017 (Discussion)

LMG said:
I hadn't done ANY Chemistry since year 12 (which was OMGSOLONGAGO) so I had to do the Foundation Unit to be considered, but even though my last formal English class was then, too, the fact that I'd written a postgrad thesis was (WAY) more than enough to meet the English requirement. That may be the case for you with Chemistry, depending on what you've studied since 2010.
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I don't think this is quite right. When I was seeking info on the UTAS program, I was told by admissions that if I was given an offer and didn't have the chem pre-req, the offer would be conditional on completing the Foundation Unit. Note that 1st round offers came out in December, before the Foundation Unit started. Also, I am unaware of any time restriction on the English pre-req.

Of course, this may not help @syzygy since the Foundation Unit has started (although it is online except for the labs in Feb, so surely you could convince them to let you sit the assessment and attend the labs).
 
LMG said:
This is theoretically correct, however the bridging course starts(started!) in the first week of Jan, so unless you got your conditional offer in Dec (or earlier), and had time to then enroll in the bridging course, the advice isn't going to help you much! And given UTAS have been so confusing with their offer release this year, and that it looks like the vast majority of non-standards are going to get super late offers (if they get any at all), there's not going to be any chance to complete the bridging course and meet the conditional requirement.
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That makes sense, and what I thought they were saying and makes their actions even more confusing - how frustrating for you all. Grrrrr.
 
Thanks for all your replies. I looked at my offer for BMedRes, which I received on the 11th (which I wish I had read at the time!!) and it says you must enrol in the foundation course before the 13th of January (no exceptions). Possibly I can convince admissions that I have continued my use of chemistry at university. Although the most chemistry I have used in a practical sense since then has been in DNA extractions...not what I would call chemistry, biology lab work is more like cooking. I did GAMSAT twice though, so I've maintained that knowledge and I know I could prove it :/ :(
 
syzygy said:
Thanks for all your replies. I looked at my offer for BMedRes, which I received on the 11th (which I wish I had read at the time!!) and it says you must enrol in the foundation course before the 13th of January (no exceptions). Possibly I can convince admissions that I have continued my use of chemistry at university. Although the most chemistry I have used in a practical sense since then has been in DNA extractions...not what I would call chemistry, biology lab work is more like cooking. I did GAMSAT twice though, so I've maintained that knowledge and I know I could prove it :/ :(
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I was under the impression that any chemistry done at uni counts to have fulfilled the chem prereq required. This is the case for me. It doesn't make sense to have at least a first year level of chem knowledge and then have to do a foundation course. Can anyone clarify or provide more info?
 
sht said:
I don't think this is quite right. When I was seeking info on the UTAS program, I was told by admissions that if I was given an offer and didn't have the chem pre-req, the offer would be conditional on completing the Foundation Unit. Note that 1st round offers came out in December, before the Foundation Unit started. Also, I am unaware of any time restriction on the English pre-req.

Of course, this may not help @syzygy since the Foundation Unit has started (although it is online except for the labs in Feb, so surely you could convince them to let you sit the assessment and attend the labs).
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Yeah, sorry, conditional offers are definitely possible (there were people in my Chem course who had them last year for MBBS and BPharm that I know of), I just knew it might be possible not to get an offer until late in the game and after enrolment in the bridging course was possible, hence the fact I just did it (plus I wanted confirmation I still COULD do it!). That said, the UTAS website did used to make it clear you had to be enrolled to be considered so... who knows!!

I'm not sure about the English thing, I just know I got an email from admissions saying the fact that I'd done other study at a level greater than AQF6 meant I satisfied that prerequisite.
 
katerpillar123 said:
I was under the impression that any chemistry done at uni counts to have fulfilled the chem prereq required. This is the case for me. It doesn't make sense to have at least a first year level of chem knowledge and then have to do a foundation course. Can anyone clarify or provide more info?
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I would expect so but it's not something I ever looked into because it didn't apply to me. Looks like a few people have very good reason to contact UTAS admissions tomorrow!
 
katerpillar123 said:
I was under the impression that any chemistry done at uni counts to have fulfilled the chem prereq required. This is the case for me. It doesn't make sense to have at least a first year level of chem knowledge and then have to do a foundation course. Can anyone clarify or provide more info?
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I've done two Chem prep courses (for my B Nursing) and has emailed UTAS to clarify if that would be enough. I was told:

"equivalent pre-tertiary bridging courses are sufficient."

If pre-tertiary bridging courses are sufficient, a university chem course would be sufficient in a world of logic and fact.

However, we may not live in this world.
 
LBoG said:
I've done two Chem prep courses (for my B Nursing) and has emailed UTAS to clarify if that would be enough. I was told:

"equivalent pre-tertiary bridging courses are sufficient."

If pre-tertiary bridging courses are sufficient, a university chem course would be sufficient in a world of logic and fact.

However, we may not live in this world.
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Who knows what world UTAS operates in lol. Thank you for the info though!
 
katerpillar123 said:
I was under the impression that any chemistry done at uni counts to have fulfilled the chem prereq required. This is the case for me. It doesn't make sense to have at least a first year level of chem knowledge and then have to do a foundation course. Can anyone clarify or provide more info?
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This FAQ gives a rundown of the pre-reqs. 100 level chem courses count, but I believe @syzygy had to take the foundation course because they completed their chem course more than 5 years ago.

EDIT: Removed hate speech.
 
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sht said:
This FAQ gives a rundown of the pre-reqs. 100 level chem courses count, but I believe @syzygy had to take the foundation course because he/she/suitable pronoun from the LGBTQIA loonybin/ completed his/her/whatever/ chem course more than 5 years ago.
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The correct pronoun is 'they'.

Don't know if you want to edit your post, but I think perhaps you should.
 
LBoG said:
The correct pronoun is 'they'.

Don't know if you want to edit your post, but I think perhaps you should.
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I think you'll find there are many words, besides "they", to choose from, which was my point. It was supposed to be a joke but I should have known better than to expect it to be taken as such in 2017.
 
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syzygy said:
Thanks for all your replies. I looked at my offer for BMedRes, which I received on the 11th (which I wish I had read at the time!!) and it says you must enrol in the foundation course before the 13th of January (no exceptions). Possibly I can convince admissions that I have continued my use of chemistry at university. Although the most chemistry I have used in a practical sense since then has been in DNA extractions...not what I would call chemistry, biology lab work is more like cooking. I did GAMSAT twice though, so I've maintained that knowledge and I know I could prove it :/ :(
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I did this course last year. All the assessments, lecture notes, and recorded lectures are online, and the exam is online. You've well and truly made it to Hobart in time for the two lab days. I have the text book and all my notes still, that you are more than welcome to. Go and plead your case that you'll catch up. I have no doubt you could do it.

ETA: if I could get 94% having not done ANY Chemistry since 1998 (!!), then you'll romp it in :)
 
On a whim I called admissions, and asked for a status update! The guy said a definite no to my question of whether offers have finished coming out, and seemed confident that there'd be some offers between now and the end of this month. When I asked if I could assume I'd been rejected after 31 Jan, he said 'probably, but don't lose hope'.

Given that there's only a week before the end of the month, maybe we can expect something?
 
I'm alright with she, but they or it are fine by me too :p.

I went into student services today and the woman there, Laura was incredibly kind and helpful. I explained my situation and told her I had used chemistry since 2010 and that it was a prerequisite for many of my subjects as part of the bachelor of science. I have also worked for a few months in a molecular plant breeding laboratory as part of my job, for what its worth.

Based on this she was able to get someone at admissions to remove the condition of doing the chemistry foundation unit from my offer. However, she wasn't sure what part of my study/work experience allowed them to do this. Also, I don't know whether this means they will accept this as fulfilment of the chemistry prerequisite for Med. I hope so, but also I am just glad I can start med research and not have to change all my plans.

I'll post if I find out what it was that allowed them to change my chemistry status... 0_0
 
syzygy said:
I'm alright with she, but they or it are fine by me too :p.
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Yeah, sorry, it wasn't supposed to be directed at you specifically but I realised later that it could have been taken that way.

I hope you are sure the admissions office won't do a flip-flop, it sounds like a right shambles at UTAS.
 
sht said:
it sounds like a right shambles at UTAS.
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I swear they are making things up as they go along. I just ran into a (non applicant) colleague who expressed her frustration at the situation, and I felt like yelling, "imagine how those of us who have actually applied feel!!"
 
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Have people already found out if they received guaranteed entry into medicine through medical research at UTAS?
 
LMG said:
Yes, two people (at least) have reported to MSO receipt of guaranteed entry offers.
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This seems strange as well.

These offers are for those that just missed out on an MBBS place. How can the school know who just missed out until they get the declines - eg LBoG today - and then make late offers?

Last year I know they were making phone calls a few days before semester started re guaranteed offers.
 
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