Post UCAT Discussion 2023

[A1]

Thanks for the quick response. I understand Griffith is a university but what is USC?

USC is Uni Sunshine Coast (i think). Its provisional BMedSc undergrad is the counterpart of Griffith Nathan/Gold Coast, which leads to a Griffith MD place.

 

[ram1710]

USC is Uni Sunshine Coast (i think). Its provisional BMedSc undergrad is the counterpart of Griffith Nathan/Gold Coast, which leads to a Griffith MD place.

Thanks for clarifying, appreciate it! Is there a chance for Flinders University or University of Sydney ? If so, should University of Sydney and flinders be selected as preference 1?

 

[A1]

Thanks for clarifying, appreciate it! Is there a chance for Flinders University or University of Sydney ? If so, should University of Sydney and flinders be selected as preference 1?

No harm trying (other than the $$ TAC application fees), but the last few years Flinders required 99.95 + a high UCAT (3000+).

USyd also requires 99.95 to get an interview so I often omit mentioning them.

If you're going to apply anyway I suggest placing USyd 1st pref in UAC (since USyd releases offers earlier, if not 1st pref it may get held back until the higher prefs outcome is known). For SATAC it doesn't matter whether Flinders is 1st or lower than Adelaide.

 

[ram1710]

No harm trying (other than the $$ TAC application fees), but the last few years Flinders required 99.95 + a high UCAT (3000+).

USyd also requires 99.95 to get an interview so I often omit mentioning them.

If you're going to apply anyway I suggest placing USyd 1st pref in UAC (since USyd releases offers earlier, if not 1st pref it may get held back until the higher prefs outcome is known). For SATAC it doesn't matter whether Flinders is 1st or lower than Adelaide.

Thanks a lot for clarifying. Your response has give us some clarify and understanding the reality

 

[Ezy1]

Got a disappointing UCAT, so it seems JCU is my only option now which is like fine cause I wanted to go there. Would an ATAR of around 93-4 be enough for JCU. I'm rural (ra2) but am applying from Victoria. I know the ATAR isn't very high but do I possibly stand any chance?

 

[A1]

Hi, I graduated high school in 2022 and took a gap year. My ATAR was 99.2 and I have an EAS due to living in a low socioeconomic area. My UCAT score this year was 3160. What are the chances of getting an Interview and/or offer at Charles Sturt dentistry? I am not rural nor am I indigenous. Thank you so much everyone!!!

or for UQ dentistry, Monash medicine or UNSW medicine? (I'm from NSW) thanks in advance

99.2+SEAS & 3160 should get you a UNSW interview, with estimate 40-50% chance for place offer.

I don't know if Monash allows SEAS-boosted ATAR for interstate applicants. If not then 99.2 isn't enough. If yes 3160 is sort of borderline UCAT, have to wait see how it will go.

 

[bro91]

Hi guys, I finished school 14 years ago and didn’t complete an ATAR I have a 7 GPA and a score of 2950 for the UCAT I am a rural applicant. Am I able to apply to UNSW without an ATAR? I also have military service which equates to an ATAR for some universities.

 

[Deboza]

Hi guys, I finished school 14 years ago and didn’t complete an ATAR I have a 7 GPA and a score of 2950 for the UCAT I am a rural applicant. Am I able to apply to UNSW without an ATAR? I also have military service which equates to an ATAR for some universities.

Domestic - How to apply to UNSW Medicine

As a domestic applicant, applying to study medicine at UNSW is a multi-stage process. Start by identifying which entry scheme or pathway applies to you.

www.unsw.edu.au

Directly from the source:

I have completed a degree

If you have completed any tertiary degree before the end of the year in which you apply (e.g. applying for T1/24 and completing a bachelor’s degree in December 2023), only the completed tertiary qualification(s) will be considered for admission.

• Completed tertiary studies must reach a minimum WAM/GPA equivalent of a 91.00 ATAR.

As you have completed a tertiary degree, we will no longer consider your secondary qualification.

So it seems like you can apply, but i'd recommend going to a post-grad school instead imo.

 

[2024md]

I am local, year 12 student, with SAT 1570, did any one know if someone get MD offer using SAT? thank you

 

[A1]

I am local, year 12 student, with SAT 1570, did any one know if someone get MD offer using SAT? thank you

In this post > 2023 Entry Interview Invites DATA COLLECTION
the OP said 1570 converts to 99.95 and USyd invited them to an interview (their ATAR 99.90 would not have got one).

That said I don't know which schools accept the use of SAT over your ATAR, you need to check directly with the schools.

 

[ReptilianV]

Hi guys, I sat my ucat today for the second time and was wondering what my chances are for non-standard entry med (e.g. wsu, jmp, unsw, and jcu)? In terms of an interview mostly.

VR: 630
DM: 800
QR: 880
AR: 790
TOTAL: 3100
SJT: 596
My GPA: 6.6

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[bokiboki]

Did my UCAT today! Was super surprised by results but obviously really happy with them. Not sure how i managed this.

VR: 750
DM: 670
QR: 900
AR: 900
Total: 3220

SJT: 624

 

[9905a]

Did my UCAT today! Was super surprised by results but obviously really happy with them. Not sure how i managed this.

VR: 750
DM: 670
QR: 900
AR: 900
Total: 3220

SJT: 624

hey did qr have large amounts of numerical calculations for you ie finding ave of 10 numbers in the millions??

TIA x

 

[Successful3229]

Good evening,
I wanted ask a several questions regarding medicine entry and pathways.
First of all, which universities offer internal transfers and what is the procedure for it? (Also, what is the liklihood to enter?).
Secondly, if someone entered a bachelor other than med and applied during the first year of uni to undergraduate Medicine, is there a difference in cutoffs of UCAT/ATAR, interviews or anything?
Lastly, I've read a very long post back in 2016 about taking MedSci (and other majors) is very bad for students looking for graduate medicine because of the competitiveness of the cohort and other things, however, recently, in that form, there were some that were recommending such option, so did it change now? And what is the liklihood of someone entering graduate medicine especially with a 7.0 GPA?
Sorry for asking a lot.

 

[A1]

Hi guys, I sat my ucat today for the second time and was wondering what my chances are for non-standard entry med (e.g. wsu, jmp, unsw, and jcu)? In terms of an interview mostly.

VR: 630
DM: 800
QR: 880
AR: 790
TOTAL: 3100
SJT: 596
My GPA: 6.6

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Please see this post > Post UCAT Discussion 2023
(for UNSW your GPA 6.6 is converted to 99.5-99.6 Selection Rank).

6.6 is competitive for JCU but it still depends on your direct Application to JCU (education background, letters of support etc).

 

[LeSpicyGinger]

Good evening,
I wanted ask a several questions regarding medicine entry and pathways.
First of all, which universities offer internal transfers and what is the procedure for it? (Also, what is the liklihood to enter?).
Secondly, if someone entered a bachelor other than med and applied during the first year of uni to undergraduate Medicine, is there a difference in cutoffs of UCAT/ATAR, interviews or anything?
Lastly, I've read a very long post back in 2016 about taking MedSci (and other majors) is very bad for students looking for graduate medicine because of the competitiveness of the cohort and other things, however, recently, in that form, there were some that were recommending such option, so did it change now? And what is the liklihood of someone entering graduate medicine especially with a 7.0 GPA?
Sorry for asking a lot.

Hiya,

Off the top of my head I know for sure Adelaide University offer internal transfers for Med but the rest of the forum can add in the rest. If you enter a Bachelor, you're ATAR becomes invalid for consideration and you will be assessed on the merit of your GPA from what I remember. This is why we recommend taking a gap year for higher ATAR students.

For medical courses that can be internal transferred into, there is often a quota for students from select degrees (e.g. Medical science usually has a small quota <10-30 spots) which can alter the scores slightly but not significantly. It's more of a trap for med aspirants imo and doesn't change your competitiveness.

I strongly recommend not doing Medical Science still as it only leads to a research pathway and is not as representative of a potential healthcare career as an allied health course. I have talked about doing a Flinders degree in the past (rec is paramedic science but medical science is part of this quota as well) as the Flinders quota offered meaningfully lowers the GAMSAT requirement (~-10 percentile) for postgraduate med as the quota covers 50%+ of the places rather than just 10-20.

Can't give you a likelihood rating with a 7.0 GPA as it depends on interview/UCAT/GAMSAT performance but generally close to 7 or 7.0 is a requirement on the GPA side to maximise your chances. Anecdotally, working in the Student Recruitment Office at Flinders I've done callouts including people who failed to get into medicine. For Adelaide medicine, I think I saw 50-80 applicants who failed to get in last year(seeing their interview scores is very depressing :/) who were in various years of health and medsci. Hope this gives you an indication of the competition.

 

[A1]

Off the top of my head I know for sure Adelaide University offer internal transfers for Med

Adding to LeSpicyGinger's reply - UNSW & Curtin also have internal transfers but as said it's still very competitive. Something like 10ish spots for the class of several hundred students.

Secondly, if someone entered a bachelor other than med and applied during the first year of uni to undergraduate Medicine, is there a difference in cutoffs of UCAT/ATAR, interviews or anything?

JCU allocates only ~1/5th of the 150 places to non-standards so the cutoff is possibly higher. Otoh if the number of NS applicants is only 1/5th of school leavers then it works out the same.

UNSW/WSU/JMP put NS and school leaver applicants into the same pool so no difference in cutoffs.

 

[Successful3229]

Hiya,

Off the top of my head I know for sure Adelaide University offer internal transfers for Med but the rest of the forum can add in the rest. If you enter a Bachelor, you're ATAR becomes invalid for consideration and you will be assessed on the merit of your GPA from what I remember. This is why we recommend taking a gap year for higher ATAR students.

For medical courses that can be internal transferred into, there is often a quota for students from select degrees (e.g. Medical science usually has a small quota <10-30 spots) which can alter the scores slightly but not significantly. It's more of a trap for med aspirants imo and doesn't change your competitiveness.

I strongly recommend not doing Medical Science still as it only leads to a research pathway and is not as representative of a potential healthcare career as an allied health course. I have talked about doing a Flinders degree in the past (rec is paramedic science but medical science is part of this quota as well) as the Flinders quota offered meaningfully lowers the GAMSAT requirement (~-10 percentile) for postgraduate med as the quota covers 50%+ of the places rather than just 10-20.

Can't give you a likelihood rating with a 7.0 GPA as it depends on interview/UCAT/GAMSAT performance but generally close to 7 or 7.0 is a requirement on the GPA side to maximise your chances. Anecdotally, working in the Student Recruitment Office at Flinders I've done callouts including people who failed to get into medicine. For Adelaide medicine, I think I saw 50-80 applicants who failed to get in last year(seeing their interview scores is very depressing :/) who were in various years of health and medsci. Hope this gives you an indication of the competition.

Thanks for the help. Also thanks to A1 for the extra information. I think even with flinders, the quota is still small because there is a good number of students from different bachelors competing for the places which doesn't help significantly with the competitiveness. Also, I've researched the cut off for the GAMSAT and it is surprisingly around the 75th percentile which is very good! (Correct me if I am wrong). I know there are other factors like GPA and possibly written application but this is still very surprising. If gone not to be I didn't get into medicine as a school leaver, then I am thinking of Psychology or Aviation as a bachelor but will be applying from the first year. I don't think it is competitive/tough in Psychology nor aviation to get the 7.0 GPA (Again, correct me if I am wrong) but would want to know if there is a difference when applying with either bachelor. (E.g. do schools prefer a first year of psych student over first year aviation student?)

Thanks in advance!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Thanks for the help. Also thanks to A1 for the extra information. I think even with flinders, the quota is still small because there is a good number of students from different bachelors competing for the places which doesn't help significantly with the competitiveness. Also, I've researched the cut off for the GAMSAT and it is surprisingly around the 75th percentile which is very good! (Correct me if I am wrong). I know there are other factors like GPA and possibly written application but this is still very surprising. If gone not to be I didn't get into medicine as a school leaver, then I am thinking of Psychology or Aviation as a bachelor but will be applying from the first year. I don't think it is competitive/tough in Psychology nor aviation to get the 7.0 GPA (Again, correct me if I am wrong) but would want to know if there is a difference when applying with either bachelor. (E.g. do schools prefer a first year of psych student over first year aviation student?)

Thanks in advance!

No preference given to type of undergrad you do.

 

[MedicalWife]

Random question. My wife got an ATAR of 99.5 but has a completed degree with the GPA at only 5.16, she’s classified as GWS which requires a completed GPA of 5.2.

Is there any precedence of using the highest of ATAR and GPA for WSU?