Quick Questions 2019/2020

[A1]

In queensland, is the conversion from OP to ATAR done by QTAC or individual universities?

Adding to Crow's reply for GPA, OP to ATAR is done by QCAA Queensland Curriculum and Assessment Authority then passed to QTAC

> https://www.qcaa.qld.edu.au/senior/tertiary-entrance/atar
"The QCAA provides all Tertiary Entrance data (OP/FPs and ATAR) to the Queensland Tertiary Admissions Centre (QTAC). If you are applying for tertiary entrance in Australia, the (other) tertiary admissions centres can obtain your ATAR directly from QTAC."

 

[Meddie]

What is the 10-year moratorium? Does it only apply to people who have received medical training overseas and are planning to return to Australia? Or does it apply to international students who received medical training in Australia as well? Someone please educate me on this thank you.

 

[A1]

What is the 10-year moratorium? Does it only apply to people who have received medical training overseas and are planning to return to Australia? Or does it apply to international students who received medical training in Australia as well? Someone please educate me on this thank you.

I found a document on this a few months ago. Iirc it applies to everyone except domestic graduates so includes Aus-trained int'l graduates and Aus/non-Aus IMGs. The moratorium means they don't get access to Medicare benefits unless they work in a district of workforce shortage.

Here's the link > Department of Health | Chapter Three - Operation of Section 19AA

3.1 Section 19AA legislation intends to ensure doctors receive continuing professional development, resulting in higher quality medical care for all Australians

Section 19AA of the Act does not allow access to Medicare benefits for medical practitioners, unless they are Fellows of a specialist college or are doing an approved placement on a s3GA (vocational?) program.

Section 19AB is a related section of legislation, which restricts overseas-trained doctors' (OTDs) and foreign graduates of Australian medical schools’ (FGAMs) access to Medicare benefits, for a period of generally 10 years, unless the doctor is working in a district of workforce shortage (DWS). OTDs and FGAMs can access Medicare benefits for the services they provide in a DWS if they obtain an exemption under s19AB of the Act. OTDs and FGAMs who are Australian permanent residents or citizens and who have yet to gain Fellowship of a specialist college or vocational recognition are also subject to s19AA of the Act.

 

[A1]

Hi. I am currently attending UNSW and they follow a trimester system. I was wondering if I deferred this term would I still be qualified for JMP and WSU med as well as Adelaide and CSU dentistry considering they take my gpa and not my atar.
For extra context, I have studied 9 units/subjects up to now. Thank you in advance

If these units are the regular-sized ones (4 per semester) then yes you will be considered as 1+ FTE year.

 

[zx72ksq8o]

Hi all, sorry if this has been asked before but with the ACCESS scheme in UNSW, is it true that only 5 people are admitted each year for med? If so, is it the 5 with the highest ATARs prior to adjustment factors or the 5 who show the most disadvantage/fit under the most categories?

 

[CookieBey]

I'm a little confused about the UQ provisonal med course. The website states, "Eligible Provisional Entry Applicants will be invited for interview in 2020 for the 2021 intake".

As a 2019 school leaver who would be required to complete an undergrad degree first, which year intake would I potentially be in and would I have to do an MMI interview?

 

[Crow]

As a 2019 school leaver who would be required to complete an undergrad degree first, which year intake would I potentially be in and would I have to do an MMI interview?

You won’t have to do an interview. The first set of provisional entry applicants to do an interview (at least for a fair while) will be the 2021 entry applicants. You are a 2020 entry applicant, so selection will be based purely off UCAT score once you’ve met the 99+ ATAR hurdle.

 

[Smelly Boy]

Hi all, sorry if this has been asked before but with the ACCESS scheme in UNSW, is it true that only 5 people are admitted each year for med? If so, is it the 5 with the highest ATARs prior to adjustment factors or the 5 who show the most disadvantage/fit under the most categories?

Idk if this has been the case in previous year but now this doesn’t seem to be the case. You’re given bonuses to ATAR & then put into the normal applicant pool. This is to the best of my knowledge after talking with UNSW special consideration & UNSW medicine for a few weeks over email last year.

 

[Advice Needed]

If there is a better way of phrasing this question I would; is it more challenging to obtain an interview invite with JMP in comparison with UNSW in reference to the UCAT ANZ results? And that JMP have their own challenging set of hurdles (in the form of more tests on the day) if you are offered an interview with them?

 

[Crow]

If there is a better way of phrasing this question I would; is it more challenging to obtain an interview invite with JMP in comparison with UNSW in reference to the UCAT ANZ results? And that JMP have their own challenging set of hurdles (in the form of more tests on the day) if you are offered an interview with them?

I think it’s fair to say even with the fact that JMP doesn’t include ATAR in their interview selection, it’s much harder to gain an invite at UNSW because not only do you need a 90+ UCAT as a non-rural, you also need a 99+ ATAR to go with it. JMP interviews more people and so the UCAT threshold is lower. I don’t really know what your second question is asking but because JMP place offers are made entirely from interview score, you need to be roughly in the top 25% of interviewees to gain a place there. In comparison, the top 1/3 of interviewees get place offers at UNSW, but final offers are also determined with UCAT and ATAR. With that in mind, I’ll let you decide which one is more difficult to get into, as this really depends on the individual’s circumstances.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I think it’s fair to say even with the fact that JMP doesn’t include ATAR in their interview selection, it’s much harder to gain an invite at UNSW because not only do you need a 90+ UCAT as a non-rural, you also need a 99+ ATAR to go with it. JMP interviews more people and so the UCAT threshold is lower. I don’t really know what your second question is asking but because JMP place offers are made entirely from interview score, you need to be roughly in the top 25% of interviewees to gain a place there. In comparison, the top 1/3 of interviewees get place offers at UNSW, but final offers are also determined with UCAT and ATAR. With that in mind, I’ll let you decide which one is more difficult to get into, as this really depends on the individual’s circumstances.

There’s the PQA at JMP, not just the MSA; that could be what the OP is referring to.

 

[pokopoko99]

(As an aside, I really feel that all universities should split bonded and unbonded into separate preferences, particularly with the dramatically increased requirements for 2020 entry. Tough to have to accept a bonded place when you were eligible for a CSP at another uni.)

What do you mean by dramatically increased requirements for 2020? Isn't it the same except for UMAT/ucat changes?

 

[Crow]

What do you mean by dramatically increased requirements for 2020? Isn't it the same except for UMAT/ucat changes?

Sorry for the confusion, I'm referring to the return of service requirements associated with bonded medical places there.

Edited by LMG.

 

[A1]

Could I just ask what the dramatically increased requirements for 2020 entry were? I wasn't informed of anything drastic that would increase requirements. Thanks!!

For 2016 to 2019 entries with a bonded place the requirement dropped from previously 4-6 years (length of your med course) to just 1 year, of service in a District of workforce shortage. From 2020 entry it goes up to 3 years. Thus students are more wary of accepting a bonded offer and Crow was suggesting UAC to allow separate pref entries for unbonded & bonded.

 

[Intissar]

asking this for a friend

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I am currently a 3rd year biomedical student. I am hoping to get into medicine at Bond for 2020 entry for which I will only know if I got in during early March 2020. If I don't get in, I'm planning to do Honours. However I need to submit my Honours application in November. I am worried that if I tell my supervisor that I am planning to apply for Bond, she may not take me. So instead, should I just not tell her until I find out. Is there any significant repercussions in doing this? If i pull out at the last moment from the honours program, will the supervisor be affected?

 

[zx72ksq8o]

Hi all, what's the interview to offer ratio for UNSW? Also for WSU it's 3:1, JMP it's 4:1 I think?

 

[Smelly Boy]

Hi all, what's the interview to offer ratio for UNSW? Also for WSU it's 3:1, JMP it's 4:1 I think?

UNSW is roughly 3:1 (~450 interview for ~150 spots). Heavy academic rank & ucat weightings really make the ratio not mean much though

 

[Logic]

Hi all, what's the interview to offer ratio for UNSW? Also for WSU it's 3:1, JMP it's 4:1 I think?

If you click this link you can see the break down for both rural and local places of how many they'll take at each stage: youtu.be/i5XR3oaehO4?t=1305

 

[DrDrLMG!]

oh ok thanks heaps i just had a heart attack!
My UCAT score was about 81st percentile so if those are only based on ucat guess i have no shot
thankyou!!

You might scrape JMP, but yeah, that's probably about it unfortunately.

 

[nath456]

I just got my deferred JCU offer (on a gap year rn) and they are telling me that I have to accept by today. Does anyone know if accepting this offer still lets me get an offer from UNSW etc. I just dont want it to affect my school leaver status etc. Also JCU is asking me to make an student account to accept the offer, I just wanted to make sure that doing so doesnt make me illegible to receive an offer from the undergrad med schools? Thanks