UCAT Results Discussion 2019

[A1]

Applying for: Medicine
Application Type: School leaver
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 98
UCAT Percentile Rank: 78 (rip)
VR: 640
DM: 660
QR: 730
AR: 650
Total: 2680
SJ: 605
Current State: NSW
Applying to: UWS, UNE/UON and others I've forgotten off the top of my head
Rural Applicant: No
GWS Applicant: No
Indigenous Applicant: No
Other: N/A
Specific Question: This is my first time posting (and I'm kind of nervous for some reason lol), but which universities would I be able to get an interview for? Also are there universities that I shouldn't be applying to (due to a low chance of getting an interview/place)?

Hey everyone! I understand that my UCAT percentile isn't competitive, and I do have a plan for uni if I don't get into undergrad medicine. Thanks for help in advance!

Applying for: Medicine and Dentistry
Application Type: Non-standard (1st year university @ UNSW)
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 98.60 ATAR and 6.0 GPA
UCAT Percentile Rank: 78%
VR: 560
DM: 770
QR: 730
AR: 620
Total: 2680
SJ: 654
Current State: NSW
Applying to: All universities that accept non-standards.
Rural Applicant: No
GWS Applicant: Yes
Indigenous Applicant: No
Other: No
Specific Question:

Do I have a chance of receiving an interview for either medicine or dentistry at ANY university? I am quietly confident confident of doing well in an interview, just getting one seems slim for me, but if I have a chance of getting one anywhere I'll definitely apply. Any advice greatly appreciated!

I scored 69% in the UMAT last year so only marginally improved this year with the UCAT, however I just started a 5-year course and am weighing up between sitting the UCAT again or pursuing the graduate medicine option.

Many thanks in advance! - this forum has been incredibly helpful so thank you for all the help and guidance thus far

Unfortunately 78%ile is unlikely to be enough for the med schools that use it. JCU & Bond are the only realistic avenues.

For greenflower , being school leaver you might want to try CDU/Flinders. This program is mainly for NT & Indigenous students but in the off chance they don't fill the quotas they might consider non-NT applicants. UWA is also a chance if you can get 99.0+, I see a 72%ile in last year's interview & offer lists (though that could be a WA student).

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Unfortunately 78%ile is unlikely to be enough for the med schools that use it. JCU & Bond are the only realistic avenues.

For greenflower , being school leaver you might want to try CDU/Flinders. This program is mainly for NT & Indigenous students but in the off chance they don't fill the quotas they might consider non-NT applicants. UWA is also a chance if you can get 99.0+, I see a 72%ile in last year's interview & offer lists (though that could be a WA student).

I’d probably throw JMP an application because we don’t reeeeeally know how that’s going to play out this year and if the UAC fee isn’t prohibitive, then it’s better to be safe than sorry.

(greenflower & 2020hopeful)

 

[lottodo]

Just wanted to know which medical schools need ATAR prediction? JCU, Curtin and ??????

Please help.

Also, this is something that we need to ask our school to do for us send to the university right?

thanks

 

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Mod Note: Answered for Med.

Applying for: Medicine and Dentistry
Application Type: Non-standard (1st year university @ UNSW)
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 98.60 ATAR and 6.0 GPA
UCAT Percentile Rank: 78%
VR: 560
DM: 770
QR: 730
AR: 620
Total: 2680
SJ: 654
Current State: NSW
Applying to: All universities that accept non-standards.
Rural Applicant: No
GWS Applicant: Yes
Indigenous Applicant: No
Other: No
Specific Question:

Do I have a chance of receiving an interview for either medicine or dentistry at ANY university? I am quietly confident confident of doing well in an interview, just getting one seems slim for me, but if I have a chance of getting one anywhere I'll definitely apply. Any advice greatly appreciated!

I scored 69% in the UMAT last year so only marginally improved this year with the UCAT, however I just started a 5-year course and am weighing up between sitting the UCAT again or pursuing the graduate medicine option.

Many thanks in advance! - this forum has been incredibly helpful so thank you for all the help and guidance thus far

Just to add to what A1 and LMG! said, it might also be worth applying for Adelaide dent. Interview cut-off was 83rd percentile last year, and they're offering 50 more interviews this year.

 

[A1]

Just wanted to know which medical schools need ATAR prediction? JCU, Curtin and ??????
Please help.
Also, this is something that we need to ask our school to do for us send to the university right?
thanks

UWA for WA students, not for interstate applicants since their interview selection is after actual ATAR is known.

Curtin is similar, I don't know why they also want predicted from interstate applicants. This form says it is to be sent by your school
> https://study.curtin.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/predicted-atar-form-fillable-final.pdf

JCU is likely by the school too. I remember Sherlock's teacher forgot to send it and he quit the school afterwards

 

[Crow]

Would this mean a 3300+ (&700+ SJT) with an atar probably around the 99.9 mark would mean I'd had to stuff up the interview horribly to not make it into UNSW?

You'd certainly be one of the top (if not the very top) applicants going in to the interview, which gives you a very sizeable advantage. Worth pointing out that UNSW state:

Scores will not be averaged, which means that a high score in one of the three components will not compensate for a low score in another.

Our interpretation of this is that if you have an exceptional UCAT and ATAR, but a below average interview, you can't solely rely on the former to compensate for the interview performance. A nice summary post of this by Ruffle can be viewed here: Quick Questions Thread #2: 2018-2019

Essentially: don't be complacent if your ATAR and UCAT are high, because the interview is still very important.

 

[Deleted member 37212]

Just to add to what A1 and LMG! said, it might also be worth applying for Adelaide dent. Interview cut-off was 83rd percentile last year, and they're offering 50 more interviews this year.

I'd love to apply to Adelaide but with a 5% percentile difference in the lowest interview offer last year (83%) and my score this year, that puts roughly 1000 students in between me and the lowest score for an interview.

Do you guys think that the 50 extra interview places would offset this difference?

Also, what are the lowest recorded percentiles for a non-rural JMP interview offer? I cant seem to find them anywhere?

 

[TKAO]

I'd love to apply to Adelaide but with a 5% percentile difference in the lowest interview offer last year (83%) and my score this year, that puts roughly 1000 students in between me and the lowest score for an interview.

Do you guys think that the 50 extra interview places would offset this difference?

Also, what are the lowest recorded percentiles for a non-rural JMP interview offer? I cant seem to find them anywhere?

When did they add 50 extra interview places?

 

[Deleted member 37212]

When did they add 50 extra interview places?

Direct quote from 2019 Admissions guide: "Approximately 250 BDS applicants will be invited to attend an interview. Only those who attend an interview will remain in consideration for an offer into the BDS degree."

Direct quote from the 2020 Admissions guide: "Approximately 300 applicants will be invited to attend a BDS interview.There is one round of interviews for the BDS degree which will be conducted from late November and into December 2019."

So it appears that they have added 50 more interviews - so again anyone think that is increase would be enough to offset the lowest interview offer by 5%tile?

 

[Cal]

Direct quote from 2019 Admissions guide: "Approximately 250 BDS applicants will be invited to attend an interview. Only those who attend an interview will remain in consideration for an offer into the BDS degree."

Direct quote from the 2020 Admissions guide: "Approximately 300 applicants will be invited to attend a BDS interview.There is one round of interviews for the BDS degree which will be conducted from late November and into December 2019."

So it appears that they have added 50 more interviews - so again anyone think that is increase would be enough to offset the lowest interview offer by 5%tile?

Just best to wait and see, possibly not, because more people apply for a bds interview, but get a spot at a medical school as first preference which is why they interview so many people, but honestly best to apply and see what happens ; cannot hurt to apply especially if you already plan on applying in Adelaide

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Also, what are the lowest recorded percentiles for a non-rural JMP interview offer? I cant seem to find them anywhere?

Check out the Interviews thread, then the Collated Interviews thread, the info is there... HOWEVER... it’s actually not going to help you much as JMP used to use UMAT in quite a specific way that meant someone with a score of 58/50/50 (~65th%ile) would get an interview, but someone with (hypothetically) 100/100/49 (100th%ile) would not. They aren’t using that system with UCAT, which will mean the person with 100th%ile (99 for UCAT) will be back in play, and the 65th%ile will almost certainly miss out. That’s why I say we don’t really know how things will work this year and it’s worth an application, just in case.

 

[lottodo]

UWA for WA students, not for interstate applicants since their interview selection is after actual ATAR is known.

Curtin is similar, I don't know why they also want predicted from interstate applicants. This form says it is to be sent by your school
> https://study.curtin.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/predicted-atar-form-fillable-final.pdf

JCU is likely by the school too. I remember Sherlock's teacher forgot to send it and he quit the school afterwards

Thank you A1. So its only JCU and Curtin.
I am applying for all universities in across Australia

 

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I'd love to apply to Adelaide but with a 5% percentile difference in the lowest interview offer last year (83%) and my score this year, that puts roughly 1000 students in between me and the lowest score for an interview.

Do you guys think that the 50 extra interview places would offset this difference?

Also, what are the lowest recorded percentiles for a non-rural JMP interview offer? I cant seem to find them anywhere?

50 extra interview places doesn't sound like much, but it works out to be a 20% increase from last year. It's still unlikely, but definitely possible

 

[A1]

Our interpretation of this is that if you have an exceptional UCAT and ATAR, but a below average interview, you can't solely rely on the former to compensate for the interview performance.

I have good reasons to believe UNSW does *not* require an above average (median) interview to be in contention for a place offer. Places are offered to the top third of the interview cohort, if UNSW pre-rejects half of them before the final ranking they would be offering to two-thirds of the remaining half. Putting so much emphasis on the interview is not UNSW's usual way.

My guess is they might reject the bottom 10-20% of interviews (i.e. for these even 99.9+99%ile won't help average out). The rest all get ranked based on combination of the three components, as such a 99.9+99%ile will have infinitely better chance. Imagine your class do three exam papers and you score 95-100 each for two, how many marks do you need in the third paper to be in the class' top third overall? I figure very little, can be well below class average.

 

[Godmode]

Hey with a 99.90+ 98% (633 sjt), how well do I have to do in interviews (assuming I get them) at UNSW and Monash in relation to others to get a place offer (as an NZ school leavers) with no special considerations. How does this change with a 99.95 atar?

Cheers

 

[TKAO]

Hey with a 99.90+ 98% (633 sjt), how well do I have to do in interviews (assuming I get them) at UNSW and Monash in relation to others to get a place offer (as an NZ school leavers) with no special considerations. How does this change with a 99.95 atar?

Cheers

99.95 opens up the possibility of USyd provisional med. Otherwise, a 99.95 will make a marginal difference to your already high scores. It will improve your chances, as any increase in ATAR will, but your scores should be enough to warrant interview offers and subsequent place offers at either, granted that you don't stuff your interview.

 

[ucatboy]

99.95 opens up the possibility of USyd provisional med. Otherwise, a 99.95 will make a marginal difference to your already high scores. It will improve your chances, as any increase in ATAR will, but your scores should be enough to warrant interview offers and subsequent place offers at either, granted that you don't stuff your interview.

Maybe Melbourne? Isn't the minimum 99.90? If so that's another option or "backup" to consider.

 

[L2pseudocode]

Mod Note: Answered.

Applying for: Medicine
Application Type: Non-standard first year uni
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 97.00 ATAR and a predicted 75-80 WAM
UCAT Percentile Rank: 96% (10 pts off 97% (( )
VR: 700
DM: 700
QR: 800
AR: 800
Total: 3000
SJ: 671
Current State: NSW
Applying to: WSU/JMP
Rural Applicant: no
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Other:
Specific Question: Can anyone give me a percentage chance on getting into med based off these stats alone and ignoring interview factors (which ik plays a huge factor)

 

[TKAO]

Maybe Melbourne? Isn't the minimum 99.90? If so that's another option or "backup" to consider.

Yep forgot about Melbourne. You are absolutely right. Just note that for Melbourne, you have to pass an interview in your third year, so unless you are really keen on going to Melbourne or really want that sweet scholarship money, I'd take USyd provisional over it any day.

 

[A1]

Applying for: Medicine
Application Type: Non-standard first year uni
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 97.00 ATAR and a predicted 75-80 WAM
UCAT Percentile Rank: 96% (10 pts off 97% (( )
VR: 700
DM: 700
QR: 800
AR: 800
Total: 3000
SJ: 671
Current State: NSW
Applying to: WSU/JMP
Rural Applicant: no
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Other:
Specific Question: Can anyone give me a percentage chance on getting into med based off these stats alone and ignoring interview factors (which ik plays a huge factor)

96%ile should be enough to get interviews with both JMP & WSU. Since their place offers are based mostly on the interview chances are basically the place : interview ratio - 1 in 4 for JMP and roughly 1 in 3 for WSU.