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Can you show me UNSW's example please? I like to see the full context.UNSW has given an example stating for a UCAT score of 3090 a 99.5 ATAR was required to meet the minimum rank.
I wrote to UNSW and their response was a 99.5 and 96 percentile ucat: I sent screenshot of it through DMCan you show me UNSW's example please? I like to see the full context.
I wouldn't be able to calculate the rank score, I can try guesstimate the "pivot point" (will explain).Would anyone be able to calculate the rank score required to have received a UNSW interview invite?
That was for last year with a hard ATAR cutoff never seen used before. The 99.20+92%ile pivot was two years ago.A1 random thing I may be confused about... I thought, for 2020 entry, UNSW published 99.20 as a hard general entry cut off for ATAR and for anything lower, even 99.15, no UCAT could compensate. Have I misunderstood that?
That was for last year with a hard ATAR cutoff never seen used before. The 99.20+92%ile pivot was two years ago.
(I didn't want to mention last year in the post above to avoid making it more confusing).
I am pretty much the 98th%ile/99.35, so would that mean I'm pretty much screwed unless I have a killer interview?I wouldn't be able to calculate the rank score, I can try guesstimate the "pivot point" (will explain).
Back in my year the scraping-an-interview line was 99.0+90%ile. Two years ago it crept up to 99.2+92%ile. I call this the pivot point i.e. you can be a little higher in one + a little lower in the other, at the approx rate of 0.1 ATAR = 1%ile. For example 99.0+94%ile or 99.4+90%ile (remember this is to scrape an interview placing you at bottom of the pack & need a near top interview to reach the offer cutoff).
This year due to UNSW giving out so much more EAS it appears to be around 99.5+95%ile. The collated data confirm with the below invites around this combo:
98th%ile/99.35
96th%ile/99.45
96th%ile/6.60 (~99.5 equivalent)
94th%ile/99.75
Large deviated from this are two scores 99th%ile/98.55 & 76th%ile/99.95(EAS boosted). Either UNSW has a special invite category for 99.95 or 99%ile, or these are way out of scale higher being in the top rung (like you know how a 99%ile can be 3,300 or 3,500).
It'd appear so if the 99th%ile/98.55 invite had no EAS.So they’ve gone back to no hard cut off?
Want me to tell you the bad news or not to tell youI am pretty much the 98th%ile/99.35, so would that mean I'm pretty much screwed unless I have a killer interview?
dont worry my guy, im the 99%ile/98.55 so you've at least got an edge over me hahahaI am pretty much the 98th%ile/99.35, so would that mean I'm pretty much screwed unless I have a killer interview?
Are all EAS/SCATS applicants given the same boost (e.g. atar raised by 2 points) or are they all boosted up to 99.95?It's why I speculated yesterday UNSW may now have three categories for interview selection:
- 99.95 (incl. EAS boost) with relatively low UCAT
- UCAT 98/99 provided meeting ATAR 96+ or WAM 70+
- The rest are by ATAR+UCAT combo.
Are all EAS/SCATS applicants given the same boost (e.g. atar raised by 2 points) or are they all boosted up to 99.95?
Are you telling me 99th/98.55 is basically equivalent to 98th/99.35? Surely not?It'd appear so if the 99th%ile/98.55 invite had no EAS.
Want me to tell you the bad news or not to tell you
But don't lose heart, UNSW is implementing new selection ways all the time so who knows. Just do the best you can.
There are three possible explanations for this^, although I don't know which if any is correct.Are you telling me 99th/98.55 is basically equivalent to 98th/99.35? Surely not?
I’m thinking they wouldn’t do this because how do they then decide place offers? Put them as an “average” applicant? Make them need to score in the top third of interview scores?1) UNSW may have given an invite to all 99th provided they meet the 96 ATAR / 70 WAM threshold.
Sounds more likely although isn’t consistent with our theory of UNSW changing to rank position rather than score (as per 3) below).2) The 99th could be 150 UCAT marks higher than the 98th (vs 20-30 marks for 1% differentials in the lower range), so in linear terms the 99th is worth like 105th %ile.
I think this is most plausible but surely there’s wayyyy more than 50 applicants over those 16 ATAR “brackets” between 98.55 and 99.35, right? Just doesn’t seem to add up to me.3) UNSW may have combined the two components by rank position (not rank score). 99th is say 50 positions higher than 98th, and 98.55 is 50 positions lower than 99.35 among the applicants, making the two equivalent.
Yes.EAS is used in invite. Does it also used for offer,
bonded/unbonded and campus allocation?