I think the change in particular is attributed to UQ Medicine's change in admissions process and the cohort size of Queensland doubling effectively the year later from around 14k to around 28k I think (It will not be a reduced size for the considerable future) increasing percentiles for both. If you compare statistics for Griffith you can tell that the year was an outlier and it is extremely unlikely to ever repeat again unless similar circumstances exist
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UQ UQ Dentistry: Admissions General Discussion
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TheWhiteKnight
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Dmltkdmltk
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Hey I read the thread and I'm still a bit confusedYeah you can but you gotta have ATAR 99.95 UNADJUSTED. Sadly, you can't get subject bonuses as a gap year taker
Sorry to keep asking the same q. But when I called UQ future students, they said that if you have an ATAR of 99.0 or plus (unadjusted and adjusted) from then on they make offers based off the UCAT score.
And he also added that this is the new admissions scheme that they started for 2022 entries.
Just wanted to see if this was correct? Because I'm planning on taking a gap year myself if I do get an ATAR of 99 or above. But if what you said is correct, I don't think I would take a gap year.
I would advise caution with such decisions. Universities can change admissions decisions yearly and this isn't a guarantee for next year so I would advise not risking a year just based on a current policy. I would if I was you consider the Melbourne FFP path and also La Trobe Dent [CSP too] which has a low ATAR 99 entry requirement as this would guarantee you admission with a low 99. For example Griffith changes, UQ's inclusion of a new category were changes to admissions processes etc. Who's the say that they don't introduce an interview next year following on from Griffith instead of solely relying on the UCAT or what if they implement a weighted formula similar to WSU or create a quota for HSL thereby directly impacting tertiary applicants ?Hey I read the thread and I'm still a bit confused
But when I called UQ future students, they said that if you have an ATAR of 99.0 or plus (unadjusted and adjusted) from then on they make offers based off the UCAT score.
And he also added that this is the new admissions scheme that they started for 2022 entries.
Just wanted to see if this was correct? Because I'm planning on taking a gap year myself if I do get an ATAR of 99 or above. But if what you said is correct, I don't think I would take a gap year.
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It's usually not recommended to take a gap year unless your ATAR is well above 99 (99.6+, possibly even higher)
That being said I think its likely they will keep the 99 Hurdle moving on, this was essentially what theyve been doing for years, its just last year QLD moved from OP to ATAR, so their defacto 99 hurdle was removed because the ATAR went up to 99.95 whilst OP stopped at 99.00
That being said I think its likely they will keep the 99 Hurdle moving on, this was essentially what theyve been doing for years, its just last year QLD moved from OP to ATAR, so their defacto 99 hurdle was removed because the ATAR went up to 99.95 whilst OP stopped at 99.00
chocoholicboi
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So does that mean that 99.00 is the threshold next year instead of 99.95? And so a person who got a 99.95 is no better than a person who got a 99.00? If that's the case, it may be fine to take a gap year (if you get at least a 99.00) however, as "Caffeine" said above, what if they introduce interviews or change the selection process again? Quite risky.Hey I read the thread and I'm still a bit confused
But when I called UQ future students, they said that if you have an ATAR of 99.0 or plus (unadjusted and adjusted) from then on they make offers based off the UCAT score.
And he also added that this is the new admissions scheme that they started for 2022 entries.
Just wanted to see if this was correct? Because I'm planning on taking a gap year myself if I do get an ATAR of 99 or above. But if what you said is correct, I don't think I would take a gap year.
If you want to take the risk of taking a gap year (with your 99.00+ atar), ask yourself whether you're confident in getting a UCAT score of 3000+. Keep in mind that it's only a 2-hour exam and anything can go wrong in the 2 hours. Spending a year just for a 2-hour exam may put a lot of pressure on yourself and could mess you up mentally before and during the exam.
If I were you, I'd just start Uni with an appropriate course (a course that will land you a job when you finish), get a good GPA and apply for tertiary transfer with the UCAT. At the same time, you can study for the GAMSAT for entry as a graduate student and aim to get a competitve result during the last 2 years of the course you're doing (as the GAMSAT results are valid for 2 years) and apply to these uni's Universities | Graduate Medical School Admissions Test | GAMSAT | ACER
99.0 has been the threshold for UQ Dent. The outcome-based cutoff is a different matter.
Before QLD changed to using ATAR, their system was OP based and the highest Qld Selection Rank was 99. Which meant the interstate high 99s got "downgraded" to SR 99. They all went into the next selection round equally, to be differentiated on UMAT.
Last year Qld changed to ATAR consequently Qld SR can be 99.0 up to 99.95, thus to go into the UCAT round they needed 99.95.
If as mentioned above, *only if* UQ Dent now changes the initial selection to 99.0 cutoff (rather than a 99.0 threshold) then all 99s will be equal for the UCAT-differentiator round.
EtA: To make it clearer we normally view a threshold as what enables you *into* a selection round, cutoff is what determines if you are successful in that round. I dwell on this because last year UQ said they would set the cutoff at 99.0 making us believe all 99s would be equal, turned out it wasn't what we thought.
SmoothCriminal
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Hi guys, where exactly do you see this page in your QTAC application?
I called UQ future students today. They told me the same thing: that the admissions scheme changed for 2022 entry and they will truncate the ATAR, so it does not matter whether you get 99.95 or 99.00. So it is a 99 cutoff (all 99s are equal), not threshold, as defined by A1 in the above post. The admissions officer told me that this likely means minimum UCAT score for this year's entry will go up compared to last year (in my opinion, not sure if this will happen, because didn't most people get boosted to 99.95 last year because of subject bonus anyway?)Hey I read the thread and I'm still a bit confused
But when I called UQ future students, they said that if you have an ATAR of 99.0 or plus (unadjusted and adjusted) from then on they make offers based off the UCAT score.
And he also added that this is the new admissions scheme that they started for 2022 entries.
Just wanted to see if this was correct? Because I'm planning on taking a gap year myself if I do get an ATAR of 99 or above. But if what you said is correct, I don't think I would take a gap year.
I also asked them if they will reserve places for NSW students who are affected by late ATAR release date: they said they will, but they have not yet decided how many places they will reserve. So fingers crossed that they will reserve enough places for NSW students.
Also, they told me that the first offer round NSW students participate in will be 28th of Jan offer round, not 21st of Jan offer round. (I guess this is because one day is not enough to process all the data, since NSW ATARs only come out on the 20th of Jan.)
SmoothCriminal
Regular Member
Does anyone know what the UCAT cutoff for dentistry last year was? And also, if you get an ATAR 98 but you have subject adjustment factors, does this mean you are still eligible?
If you get subject bonuses and your 98 ATAR gets boosted to >= 99.00, you are eligible. After that, it is all about UCAT, your ATAR does not matter anymore (that is, it is the same getting 99.95 or 99.00). UQ is using SJT this year. A simple way to think about it is that your UCAT is now out of 4500 not 3600. IMO it's very unlikely that they will weight different sections of the UCAT differently like Western Sydney University, just based on what their website says, but then again, who knows?
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Very likely to go up. Not only the 97.x boosted to 99.x but there will be a good number of non-standards added to the UCAT-select pool (not many non-standards got to 99.95 last year).
Maybe check if you correctly put in your UCAT ANZ number???
SmoothCriminal
Regular Member
There was no place to put in the UCAT ANZ number. Apparently, QTAC receives the UCAT results directly from Pearson. But that is not the issue, I cannot find a page where it displays similar information as that screenshot I attached.
oh ok... Did you double click on your course preference (I think that's what you screenshotted?)
SmoothCriminal
Regular Member
No, the preferences are not hyperlinked to anything. However, the entry requirements field under the preference says "pending".
Strange..sorry could not help you here. Does anyone here have similar issue
TheWhiteKnight
PGY2
For entry for 2021 the cutoffs were:
UQ Dent: ATAR: 99.95 UCAT: 2980 (93rd percentile)
UQ Med: ATAR: 95 UCAT: 2980 (93rd percentile)
Expectations for 2022 are similar percentiles for both.
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I like to point out a difference in the cutoffs above
- For UQ Dent 93%ile was the place-offer cutoff i.e. after 99.95 anyone 93+%ile got an offer
- For UQ Med 93%ile was only the interview-invite cutoff. But I wouldn't call it the entry cutoff since a lot of 93+%ile didn't get a place offer. IOW there was no single UCAT cutoff for entry.