UQ UQ Medicine: Provisional Entry Questions and Discussion

[dotwingz]

Do keep in mind though that a lot of people never get past (or to) a bachelors in their academic achievements, just because it’s a stepping stone to another degree for you, doesn’t mean it loses any difficulty.

Bachelors degrees aren’t easy, especially at UQ, so do keep track of it.

 

[naian616]

it says that the provisional program for uq doctor of medicine is 6 years (so completing an undergraduate course first whilst maintaining a certain gpa before heading to the main doctor of medicine program).
But most of the undergraduate programs that are listed by uq to do as undergraduate such as bio med, health sciences, pharmacy etc. are completed within 3 years instead of 2 (doctor of mediicne is 4 yrs for 6 years total).
Do you have to graduate the whole undergraduate course (3 yrs full time) or can you leave after 2 years whilst maintaining a high gpa, because it says 6 years, or is there something I am not understanding? I know that the cq joint program with uq is 7 years, so would uq's 6 years be an error?
sorry, im not familiar with this stuff.

 

[dotwingz]

Where does it say that sorry? Back in the MBBS days you could do 2 years of a BSci with selected courses and go in from there but they removed that a number of years ago

 

[naian616]

Where does it say that sorry? Back in the MBBS days you could do 2 years of a BSci with selected courses and go in from there but they removed that a number of years ago

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if you look at the course lengths, they are all 3 yrs long (the shortest)

 

[dotwingz]

Sorry i meant where does it say 6 years

 

[naian616]

Sorry i meant where does it say 6 years

ahh, i must of read the 6 yr part somewhere else, now that ive re-read the site, it only states 4 yrs for the actual doctor of med program, so does this mean the whole program is 7 yrs?
if so, this might make me consider jcu over uq now....

 

[dotwingz]

Yeah the whole programs 7 years, but really in the grand scheme 1 extra year isn’t a big deal (if it’s used wisely)! I actually found that the extra year of a “normal degree” and partially not med related (double major in biomed and compsci) was really eye opening

But if that’s not your prerogative then yeah, JCU might be a better choice. Manas guide to picking unis is linked in my signature, you should give it a read (although i think he emphasises time a little too much)

 

[naian616]

Yeah the whole programs 7 years, but really in the grand scheme 1 extra year isn’t a big deal (if it’s used wisely)! I actually found that the extra year of a “normal degree” and partially not med related (double major in biomed and compsci) was really eye opening

But if that’s not your prerogative then yeah, JCU might be a better choice. Manas guide to picking unis is linked in my signature, you should give it a read (although i think he emphasises time a little too much)

thank you! this clarifies things

 

[dotwingz]

No worries. Sometimes it pays off to take time to smell the roses of life!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

ahh, i must of read the 6 yr part somewhere else, now that ive re-read the site, it only states 4 yrs for the actual doctor of med program, so does this mean the whole program is 7 yrs?
if so, this might make me consider jcu over uq now....

The whole program is a minimum of 7 years, as I believe you can choose to do the 4 year BPharm (for example) which would make the program 8 years (or historically and for A1, dentistry, which would make it 9 years ). 6 years is Griffith and Flinders (for similar program set ups).

 

[naian616]

The whole program is a minimum of 7 years, as I believe you can choose to do the 4 year BPharm (for example) which would make the program 8 years (or historically and for A1, dentistry, which would make it 9 years ). 6 years is Griffith and Flinders (for similar program set ups).

thank you, i guess doing a biomedical degree would minimise the length ha ah

 

[DrDrLMG!]

No worries. Sometimes it pays off to take time to smell the roses of life!

I have smelled a LOT of (time-based) roses

 

[dotwingz]

thank you, i guess doing a biomedical degree would minimise the length ha ah

obligatiry but i would recommend a BSc instead of BBiomedSc (for when you get in ) because it’s essentially the same but BSc is a lot more flexible and cooler.

Biomedical Science major is a bit meh, there’s plenty of BSci majors in similar areas (Genetics, Biochem, Microbiol) that come a lot more highly regarded than Biomed. Also as of 2021 you can do minors in the BSci program which include everything from Ancient Greek to Chemistry )

ETA: aaand you can do anything you want in a BSci than in a BBiomedSc, there’s not good reason to do a BBiomedSc

 

[TheWhiteKnight]

The whole program is a minimum of 7 years, as I believe you can choose to do the 4 year BPharm (for example) which would make the program 8 years (or historically and for A1, dentistry, which would make it 9 years ). 6 years is Griffith and Flinders (for similar program set ups).

If you choose to complete a 4-year degree like pharmacy or law at UQ as a part of your overall medical program, it's still a 7-year program. You complete the BPharm(Hons) or LLB(Hons) in 3 years as oppose to 4. The university make you undertake 5-6 subjects per semester as oppose to 4.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

If you choose to complete a 4-year degree like pharmacy or law at UQ as a part of your overall medical program, it's still a 7-year program. You complete the BPharm(Hons) or LLB(Hons) in 3 years as oppose to 4. The university make you undertake 5-6 subjects per semester as oppose to 4.

Oh yikes. You’re the first to point this out, to my knowledge, so thanks for clarifying. Seems a bit… .

 

[dotwingz]

Thats absolutely false.

ETA: These are the conditions you must comply with... given to Provisional MD students in O-week


So *8 units*/4 x 2 unit courses a semester + Strictly >5.0 GPA + You must complete the degree in the minimum amount of time from when you started the provisional program (so e.g. if you complete year 1 of a 3 year BSci degree and swap into a 4 year BPharm, you will have the remaining 3 years to complete said BPharm degree... It's still 4 years total its just 1 year BSci + 3 Years BPharm)

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Thats absolutely false.

Thank you! Haha!! I was actually just coming back here to say I think this isn’t true.

 

[dotwingz]

Yeah, I think the OP might of confused the condition that you must complete a degree in the minimum amount of time from when you started the provisional program

 

[naian616]

Thats absolutely false.

ETA: These are the conditions you must comply with... given to Provisional MD students in O-week
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So *8 units*/4 x 2 unit courses a semester + Strictly >5.0 GPA + You must complete the degree in the minimum amount of time from when you started the provisional program (so e.g. if you complete year 1 of a 3 year BSci degree and swap into a 4 year BPharm, you will have the remaining 3 years to complete said BPharm degree... It's still 4 years total its just 1 year BSci + 3 Years BPharm)

this clarifies a lot thank you! when applying for a undergrad degree for uq, does this need to be in the qtac preferences, or is this completely seperate?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

this clarifies a lot thank you! when applying for a undergrad degree for uq, does this need to be in the qtac preferences, or is this completely seperate?

If you mean the undergrad degree in conjunction with a provisional Med pathway, then I don’t think so… I think you select that once you have the provisional Med offer*. If you mean a standalone undergrad, then yes.
(* I have inferred this from the timing of the action in the ‘which undergrad degree should I do for UQ provisional Med’ thread here — very scientific!)