Admissions Centres Preferencing: General Discussion

[Nonstandard983]

The latter, if you don't select bonded and end up ranking in the bonded zone, you just won't get an offer at all. Only do this if you are preferencing other med unis below JMP as in, you'd rather get your second preference e.g. WSU unbonded rather than your first preference but bonded e.g. JMP bonded. At least I think that's how it works.

interesting,

So if we are indeed offered a bonded position and a university we have ranked higher and a lower preference uni wants to give us an unbounded position we won't even be aware of it due to UAC prefrencing?

Is this still the case as a regional applicant because I have read stories on here about UWS/UNSW calling successful regional applicants to ask if they are going to accept their offer?

 

[dotwingz]

Yes exactly

It’s seemingly random what universities call who, it’s not just restricted to rural applicants. I wouldn’t vouch on it.

 

[Nonstandard983]

Yes exactly

It’s seemingly random what universities call who, it’s not just restricted to rural applicants. I wouldn’t vouch on it.

So you could get the call you could also not get a call and not be aware an unbounded position is on the table at all. I wish UAC would account for things like this...

 

[A1]

So you could get the call you could also not get a call and not be aware an unbonded position is on the table at all. I wish UAC would account for things like this...

I have requested UNSW Med to request UAC that UAC will, 1-2 days before the offer release date, call any applicants qualified for dual/triple UNSW JMP WSU offers to let them choose over the phone (rather than going rigidly with their UAC prefs which don't account for unbonded/bonded/campus location).

Unfortunately I haven't heard back from UNSW whether they will help. Maybe we can form a large group to petition directly to UAC.

 

[SmoothCriminal]

Maybe we can form a large group to petition directly to UAC.

Yes, I think that would be a good idea if you guys could advertise it on MSO, and also we could also potentially make a petition to combine the 4 preferences for CQU for just 40 places.

 

[Nonstandard983]

Id be extremely interested about making the happen

I have requested UNSW Med to request UAC that UAC will, 1-2 days before the offer release date, call any applicants qualified for dual/triple UNSW JMP WSU offers to let them choose over the phone (rather than going rigidly with their UAC prefs which don't account for unbonded/bonded/campus location).

Unfortunately I haven't heard back from UNSW whether they will help. Maybe we can form a large group to petition directly to UAC.

 

[A1]

Id be extremely interested about making the happen

I don't know how to organise a petition on MSO (or outside). Can someone please advise, or is there a public website that facilitates this?

Btw I think one of the applicants should take the lead and we mods can provide support where required. It wouldn't be right for a non-applicant to be discusing with UAC.

 

[polo16]

Hey all,

First of all, defs would want to be involved in A1's idea in asking uac to call us before offers are released. I can definitely call them and ask about this tomorrow.

The main question I have is actually got to do with my chances. As someone with a 99.55 atar and a 97th ucat, is it not worth to even put unsw as 1st option? Would it be better for me to put WSU as first 1st option instead?

Thank you for answering in advance

 

[A1]

The main question I have is actually got to do with my chances. As someone with a 99.55 atar and a 97th ucat, is it not worth to even put unsw as 1st option? Would it be better for me to put WSU as first 1st option instead?

Iirc there are only a few places for non-rurals at CSU, let's leave it out for simplicity. Then assuming your actual order of preference is
UNSW Kensington unbonded > WSU unbonded > Kensington bonded > WSU bonded > Port/Wagga bonded
(I leave out Port/Wagga unbonded since if qualified for unbonded you should be high enough for Kensington)

Putting WSU higher you risk getting WSU bonded vs missing out Kensington unbonded.
Putting UNSW higher you could get Kensington/Port/Wagga bonded vs missing out WSU.

I think the latter has more to lose, so putting WSU higher is probably the lesser devil.

 

[MKLim]

I need some advice , since QTAC only allows 6 preferences, I am thinking of taking out Griffith Med (my ATAR will most probably be around 99.6) and replacing it with CQU BMP or Griffith Dent. I already have CQU but not BMP. Will I be able to add this back once results are out assuming I do eventually get 99.75 (since no interview fir Griffith Med right). TIA

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I need some advice , since QTAC only allows 6 preferences, I am thinking of taking out Griffith Med (my ATAR will most probably be around 99.6) and replacing it with CQU BMP or Griffith Dent. I already have CQU but not BMP. Will I be able to add this back once results are out assuming I do eventually get 99.75 (since no interview fir Griffith Med right). TIA

I do believe that Griffith Med has a later closing date than most unis so this should work. Just double check the cut off date and make sure you do any changing before then.

 

[A1]

I need some advice , since QTAC only allows 6 preferences, I am thinking of taking out Griffith Med (my ATAR will most probably be around 99.6) and replacing it with CQU BMP or Griffith Dent. I already have CQU but not BMP. Will I be able to add this back once results are out assuming I do eventually get 99.75 (since no interview fir Griffith Med right). TIA

Griffith-USC has closing date 27th Dec with no warning.
Griffith GC/Nathan closing date 30th Dec but with this warning, so beware

> Degrees
"New applications lodged after 10 December 2021 may not be assessed in time for the January offer round.
Applications close on the 30 December 2021, so applicants may add this to their preferences until this date, however no guarantee is given that applications will be assessed in time for the January offer round.
After 30 December 2021, no new applicants can apply, but existing applicants can reorder this preference. Late offers after the January offer round will only be made if places remain in the program."

 

[A1]

First of all, defs would want to be involved in A1's idea in asking uac to call us before offers are released. I can definitely call them and ask about this tomorrow.

Yes we need to actively "pursue" UAC until UAC provides a satisfactory solution. But be warned that MSO members had tried last year and the year before. Both times UAC warded them off with "the med schools decide who get unbonded who get bonded, not something UAC can do".

That is very true, but it's a deflection away from the actual issue. Well before offers release date the three schools must have sent to UAC their offer ranking lists for UAC to sort out preferences. This is when UAC can call the multiple-offer applicants to let them choose, instead of UAC deciding for them.

 

[Nonstandard983]

Yes we need to actively "pursue" UAC until UAC provides a satisfactory solution. But be warned that MSO members had tried last year and the year before. Both times UAC warded them off with "the med schools decide who get unbonded who get bonded, not something UAC can do".

That is very true, but it's a deflection away from the actual issue. Well before offers release date the three schools must have sent to UAC their offer ranking lists for UAC to sort out preferences. This is when UAC can call the multiple-offer applicants to let them choose, instead of UAC deciding for them.

I feel like if someone writes a letter we get a petition with everyone’s UAC number/ name/signature they would have to take us seriously if we got 20+ signatures

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I feel like if someone writes a letter we get a petition with everyone’s UAC number/ name/signature they would have to take us seriously if we got 20+ signatures

I don’t want to damped your enthusiasm or dissuade you from pursuing this, but remember that UAC don’t just manage medicine applications, they manage all applications for all courses and for all NSW-based (and some Qld-based) universities. I would approach any attempts with that information in mind.

 

[borenkar]

Griffith-USC has closing date 27th Dec with no warning.
Griffith GC/Nathan closing date 30th Dec but with this warning, so beware

> Degrees
"New applications lodged after 10 December 2021 may not be assessed in time for the January offer round.
Applications close on the 30 December 2021, so applicants may add this to their preferences until this date, however no guarantee is given that applications will be assessed in time for the January offer round.
After 30 December 2021, no new applicants can apply, but existing applicants can reorder this preference. Late offers after the January offer round will only be made if places remain in the program."

Does this mean that the NSW students will loose out due to the delay in ATAR release this time to 20th Jan 2022. I mean no option to add in if ATAR improves. Any ideas?

 

[A1]

Does this mean that the NSW students will loose out due to the delay in ATAR release this time to 20th Jan 2022. I mean no option to add in if ATAR improves. Any ideas?

These are three different matters :
- If a NSW student's actual ATAR improves (over their predicted) it'd be too late for JCU round2 interview consideration.

- If you are thinking to add Griffith to QTAC preferences only after knowing what your ATAR is, even without this delay (i.e. usual ATAR release date mid-Dec) it'd still be after Griffith's warning date 10th Dec. So not a viable option with or without ATAR delay

- With ATAR delayed to 20th Jan vs QTAC Jan offer round1 13th Jan the Qld med schools can't make offers to NSW applicants in this round. I hope they either set aside a number of places to be offered later, or all Qld med schools agree to use (for all applicants) the Jan offer round2 21st or round3 28th instead.

 

[borenkar]

These are three different matters :
- If a NSW student's actual ATAR improves (over their predicted) it'd be too late for JCU round2 interview consideration.

- If you are thinking to add Griffith to QTAC preferences only after knowing what your ATAR is, even without this delay (i.e. usual ATAR release date mid-Dec) it'd still be after Griffith's warning date 10th Dec. So not a viable option with or without ATAR delay

- With ATAR delayed to 20th Jan vs QTAC Jan offer round1 13th Jan the Qld med schools can't make offers to NSW applicants in this round. I hope they either set aside a number of places to be offered later, or all Qld med schools agree to use (for all applicants) the Jan offer round2 21st or round3 28th instead.

Thank you, that's sad Hope the QLD Uni's set aside some places for NSW students. Has anyone contacted the Uni's to check this? Any updates appreciated.

 

[cocodreams]

I just realised that QTAC didn't ask for my UCAT ID even though I am applying for griffith and uq dent? Or did I miss something?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I just realised that QTAC didn't ask for my UCAT ID even though I am applying for griffith and uq dent? Or did I miss something?

Nope, they get it directly.