CSU CSU Dentistry: Q&A and General Discussion

[JL538]

Generally yes, but DON'T do that if you are a rural med applicant to WSU/JPM. I think WSU has released rural med offers in a Dec round in previous years.

But since UAC changed their system to just giving an offer for your next pref in descending order does this really matter? Since I technically am not disqualified from these Dec rounds for CSU dent even if it is not 1st? Sorry, Im a bit confused

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Generally yes, but DON'T do that if you are a rural med applicant to WSU/JPM. I think WSU has released rural med offers in a Dec round in previous years.

Pretty sure they’ve confirmed they’re not doing this anymore, but yeah, they definitely have done previously.

 

[A1]

But since UAC changed their system to just giving an offer for your next pref in descending order does this really matter?

Can you give us an ironclad guarantee UAC won't change back to their old system this year?

Since I technically am not disqualified from these Dec rounds for CSU dent even if it is not 1st?

Whether new or old system you won't be disqualified from a CSU dent offer. If you place CSU at lower pref *and* UAC changes back, the offer would be held back until January when med offers are released. Then you will get either one med offer or at least the CSU dent offer.

(Btw the main purpose of this was to prevent you sitting on one CSU dent + one say UNSW med offer until March, which doesn't give the school enough time to give a top-up to the applicant next in line. The current/new system doesn't prevent that, it relies on your goodwill not to do so).

 

[clairebear]

Hi guys! Has anyone else logged into Charles Sturt University and found an offer?

 

[Paddington]

Hi guys! Has anyone else logged into Charles Sturt University and found an offer?

Mine says 'You will be competing with other applicants for an offer"

 

[JL538]

??? Aren't offers released tomorrow (Dec 10) through UAC, not the CSU website?

 

[dotwingz]

Sometimes you can look into the student enrolment portal and get information a tincy bit early. The offers arent conclusive however and just because you cant see it/login doesnt mean you wont get one tomorrow (i dont know how CSU works aswell but it could also be the case that only current students have an account set up)

Take this example from last year of a JMP student who got accepted and could log in

JMP - JMP: General Entry Discussion

Thanks. Mbe wrong place to ask but anyone tried this post i found ? Quick Questions Thread #2: 2018-2019 This is what the messages above are talking about

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and this one who also got accepted but who couldnt log in

JMP - JMP: General Entry Discussion

Thanks. Mbe wrong place to ask but anyone tried this post i found ? Quick Questions Thread #2: 2018-2019 This is what the messages above are talking about

medstudentsonline.com.au

 

[Larry-the-lemon]

Hi guys! Has anyone else logged into Charles Sturt University and found an offer?

On page of the Charles Sturt university was the offer visible?

 

[dotwingz]

On page of the Charles Sturt university was the offer visible?

Accept your offer

my-offer.csu.edu.au

^^ Try this one and click activate my account. Otherwise, try to get some rest and the offers will be out in the morning

 

[Larry-the-lemon]

thank you.

 

[gregoryschwift]

Does anyone know how they make these offers? Like what criteria? Do they have access to your ATAR's already or are they made solely on the interview?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Does anyone know how they make these offers? Like what criteria? Do they have access to your ATAR's already or are they made solely on the interview?

I believe (though can’t remember 100%) these early offers are made to people with known academic results. Hence the reason we’ve only had reports from applicants who would have been assessed on the basis of a GPA rather than ATAR.

 

[AdmiralAckbar]

I believe (though can’t remember 100%) these early offers are made to people with known academic results. Hence the reason we’ve only had reports from applicants who would have been assessed on the basis of a GPA rather than ATAR.

I was under the impression that academic results (ATAR/GPA) & UCAT were only considered when offering interview positions, with official offers made based on interview performance? I have finished an undergrad degree but I don't know if they used my GPA or ATAR when I got an interview offer. If I haven't gotten an offer on UAC yet is it over for me or are the offers made on the 10th only for early applicants? I'm really confused as to what is going on here, I've heard/read that there is another offer round on the 21st of Dec and another one on the 3rd of Jan, so as an interstate graduate applicant which date should I be checking for an offer?

 

[gregoryschwift]

I was under the impression that academic results (ATAR/GPA) & UCAT were only considered when offering interview positions, with official offers made based on interview performance? I have finished an undergrad degree but I don't know if they used my GPA or ATAR when I got an interview offer. If I haven't gotten an offer on UAC yet is it over for me or are the offers made on the 10th only for early applicants? I'm really confused as to what is going on here, I've heard/read that there is another offer round on the 21st of Dec and another one on the 3rd of Jan, so as an interstate graduate applicant which date should I be checking for an offer?

I'd definitely say its not over so dont panic about that. I also didn't get this round but every year theres a fair portion who decline their offers so space will open up. As for the interviews being based only on ATAR and UCAT im not entirely sure if that would be it for the reason that interviews started during late November so ATAR's most likely wouldn't be finalised right? I feel like maybe this round would be those with scholarships, significant rural/indigenous consideration, or extremely high UCAT. I'm just rambling here haha I dont know myself but I'd say be checking every round. Good luck

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Due to the non-centralised nature of undergraduate and non-standard Med/dent, meaning people can get multiple offers across and within states, definitely don’t give up hope yet!

ETA: AdmiralAckbar I’m not sure how ATARs can be used to make interview invites given they’re an unknown at the point CSU distribute invites. Did you have to submit a predicted ATAR form? They (academic results) do have to be factored in at some stage (whether as a hurdle or as part of the offer equation) so, except for unis that make conditional offers (ie. UTAS rural) applicants won’t be eligible for offers until (amongst other things) academic results are released.

 

[JL538]

I was under the impression that academic results (ATAR/GPA) & UCAT were only considered when offering interview positions, with official offers made based on interview performance? I have finished an undergrad degree but I don't know if they used my GPA or ATAR when I got an interview offer. If I haven't gotten an offer on UAC yet is it over for me or are the offers made on the 10th only for early applicants? I'm really confused as to what is going on here, I've heard/read that there is another offer round on the 21st of Dec and another one on the 3rd of Jan, so as an interstate graduate applicant which date should I be checking for an offer?

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Have a look here - interviews are sent based on UCAT only, and offers are made based on interview score only (potentially they use UCAT as a discriminator if interview scores are similar?) - ATAR is a hurdle - so you just have to get above a certain amount and it does not matter anymore (similar to UQ dent with their hurdle at 99) - IDK what that hurdle actually is though

 

[A1]

- ATAR is a hurdle - IDK what that hurdle actually is though

From this CSU webpage > Bachelor of Dental Science

- Current CSU student with 1+FTE : GPA 5.5+ in lieu of UCAT
- Current CSU student with sub-1FTE : GPA 5.5+ *and* ATAR > 90, in lieu of UCAT

- All other applicants including school leavers : UCAT

I interpret the last line as UCAT in lieu of GPA/ATAR, so there isn't an ATAR hurdle except for current CSU students with sub-1FTE.

 

[JL538]

From this CSU webpage > Bachelor of Dental Science

- Current CSU student with 1+FTE : GPA 5.5+ in lieu of UCAT
- Current CSU student with sub-1FTE : GPA 5.5+ *and* ATAR > 90, in lieu of UCAT

- All other applicants including school leavers : UCAT

I interpret the last line as UCAT in lieu of GPA/ATAR, so there isn't an ATAR hurdle except for current CSU students with sub-1FTE.

Yeah that's for selection for interviews but I meant selection for offers - is there really no hurdle at all lol - seems a bit odd - also I think I saw somewhere on the forum that they are releasing offers only for those with tertiary study - if ATAR did not matter surely they would release offers for school leavers now as well?

 

[AdmiralAckbar]

From this CSU webpage > Bachelor of Dental Science

- Current CSU student with 1+FTE : GPA 5.5+ in lieu of UCAT
- Current CSU student with sub-1FTE : GPA 5.5+ *and* ATAR > 90, in lieu of UCAT

- All other applicants including school leavers : UCAT

I interpret the last line as UCAT in lieu of GPA/ATAR, so there isn't an ATAR hurdle except for current CSU students with sub-1FTE.

This is what I thought as well, I guess the hurdle is UCAT and then the last hurdle is the interview as well as maybe another hurdle being someone from a regional background as that is a major aspect of studying at CSU, they have a focus on training regional students to go back into regional settings and help those communities. As A1 said, that is what the info CSU gives on their page, seems strange to pick people for very limited interview spots only to not consider them based on academic stores that are released after the interview. Hypothetically (although I know is very unlikely) a large majority or all of the interviewees could have been selected for an interview and then not given an offer because they didn't pass the ATAR/GPA hurdle. How will they fill the spots then? lower the hurdle?

 

[A1]

Yeah that's for selection for interviews but I meant selection for offers

More info although a bit dated

- 2019 BDSc ATAR profile > Workbook: ATAR Profile
An ATAR profile is not available for this course. ATAR was not a factor in the selection.

- 2019 BDSc handbook > Bachelor of Dental Science
Following interview, applicants will be selected for offer based on interview outcome. When ranking applicants for an offer UMAT/GPA may be used to rank applicants with identical interview scores.

- 2016 CSU official reply to an FOI request > Dentistry - Admission Statistics and Selection Process - a Freedom of Information request to Charles Sturt University
Following the interview, applicants will be selected for an offer based on a combination of the UMAT score and your interview performance. Your ATAR/GPA may be used at this time to rank applicants with identical UMAT scores. (even back in 2016 ATAR wasn't used as a hurdle, only a tiebreak).