It depends on who you’re applying to. I think the general belief is that JCU will use it all, whereas JMP use your most recent, for example.
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General Medicine Entry Discussion and Advice Requests
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Ok, thanks for clarifying ... I think I'll also email each university to confirm how they'll calculate it
I think JCU would use your most recent degree’s results, actually. They previously (and probably still do, but I haven’t checked) had a clause in the admissions guide which said that “we will use your most recent results but your whole academic history may be taken into account” - one interpretation of this was that those with honours/higher degrees might be preferenced higher than those with a bare bachelor degree if they happened to be ranked equivalently.
Ahh, this is the terminology that confused me. Thanks.
Definitely not a problem coming from a qualified doc! In the interview make sure you relate this to your lived experience of patient care, what traits in your treating team inspired you to do med, how it has developed empathy with patients, perhaps an interest in genetics etc. Finally, good luck with your applicationsHey guys, I have a very general question about the requirements to become a doctor.
I was wondering whether individuals with chronic illnesses can still qualify as doctors (and ofc enter med schools)? I have a very mild immunodeficiency disorder (it's genetic). I was wondering whether that will affect my medicine journey at all? It hasn't affected my schooling at all and it just means I'm slightly more susceptible to illness/infections and things. In fact I think it's given me a clearer understanding of how the health system works and definitely more empathy towards patients. This might be out of the scope (sorry) but any advice/info would be super helpful as I couldn't find anything online
Hi guys,
I needed some advice about pathway into medicine so I thought it would be best to just come here and discuss it. I finished high school last year and got a decent ATAR but I did not end up doing the UCAT due to some personal issues during the testing period. So without an UCAT, I applied into medicine at JCU. I got selected for an interview there but did not get selected for the course. Currently, I am in my first semester at UQ doing biomed. I was wondering if anyone had any information regarding other entry pathway into medicine than through the traditional postgrad GAMAT-Interview pathway. If there is another pathway, can someone please provide me with more information about UNIs which may have the alternative pathway for applicants like me who can apply for it. I have also heard about Non-Standard entry but I am not sure if that applies for my situation. If required I am more than happy to take the UCAT this year. Just for context I am a rural applicant as well.
Thanks in advance!
I needed some advice about pathway into medicine so I thought it would be best to just come here and discuss it. I finished high school last year and got a decent ATAR but I did not end up doing the UCAT due to some personal issues during the testing period. So without an UCAT, I applied into medicine at JCU. I got selected for an interview there but did not get selected for the course. Currently, I am in my first semester at UQ doing biomed. I was wondering if anyone had any information regarding other entry pathway into medicine than through the traditional postgrad GAMAT-Interview pathway. If there is another pathway, can someone please provide me with more information about UNIs which may have the alternative pathway for applicants like me who can apply for it. I have also heard about Non-Standard entry but I am not sure if that applies for my situation. If required I am more than happy to take the UCAT this year. Just for context I am a rural applicant as well.
Thanks in advance!
Anyone who has started uni then applies for medicine is a non-standard applicant, but they are limited to only a few schools : JCU and (with UCAT) JMP, UNSW, JPM. And Bond if you can afford.
The process is the same for non-standards as for school leavers, one key change is JCU/JMP will use your GPA instead of ATAR, UNSW uses best of between ATAR & GPA, JPM your ATAR qualifies you so GPA doesn't matter. Good luck.
I noticed the mysterious domestic full-fee FFP numbers in this table so enquired with Med Deans
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These are whole-school not per-year cohorts. The FFPs at Bond, UoM, Notre Dame, Macquarie are understandable, but 101 at Flinders?
Med Deans explains the Flinders-NT students are funded under a joint agreement between Federal and NT governments so technically they are not fully Cmwlth-supported CSP, the only column to fit them under is domestic FFP.
The 10ish FFPs at UQ, UNSW, Monash... were international students but have since had their immigration status changed to Aus resident. They are still paying int'l fees but are now classified as domestic FFPs.
These are whole-school not per-year cohorts. The FFPs at Bond, UoM, Notre Dame, Macquarie are understandable, but 101 at Flinders?
Med Deans explains the Flinders-NT students are funded under a joint agreement between Federal and NT governments so technically they are not fully Cmwlth-supported CSP, the only column to fit them under is domestic FFP.
The 10ish FFPs at UQ, UNSW, Monash... were international students but have since had their immigration status changed to Aus resident. They are still paying int'l fees but are now classified as domestic FFPs.
future_docy
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Hi guys, does anyone know how direct entry into med works? Thanks!
Not sure what you mean direct entry, can you give examples - is that for undergrad med or grad-entry med?
future_docy
Member
This table although outdated gives an overall idea
> [Undergrad] - (2020 Updated) Med schools Selection Criteria Y12s & Non-standards
I generally split the schools into three groups:
1) "Direct-entry" undergrad med schools (most are now MD Master degrees but start as undergrad) like JCU, JMP, JPM/WSU, UNSW, Monash, UTas, Adelaide, Curtin.
2) Graduate-entry only, not available to school leavers, like ANU, Wollongong, Deakin, Notre Dame.
3) Between these two groups are several graduate-entry schools who offer a portion of their MD places to school leavers 3-4 years in advance. When these provisional students complete their undergrad degree (plus any stated requirements) they get "automatic entry" to the med course. See the ones marked Provisional in the table.
What else would you like to know about direct entry?
future_docy
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Hey guys, hope everyone is well!
I'm writing this post to seek a bit of advice surrounding my options to get into medicine as an undergraduate.
I'm a 4th year bachelor of physiotherapy student and will be graduating next year feb with a GPA of ~5.1.
I am quite aware that my options will be more extensive in post grad medicine but this will not be feasible as I have failed a unit earlier this year.
Currently, the most optimal (I know, not very optimal) pathway looks to be the Bbiomedsc at UoN whilst continuing to try for WSU and UNSW through UCAT.
Thank you and I appreciate your help in advance!
I'm writing this post to seek a bit of advice surrounding my options to get into medicine as an undergraduate.
I'm a 4th year bachelor of physiotherapy student and will be graduating next year feb with a GPA of ~5.1.
I am quite aware that my options will be more extensive in post grad medicine but this will not be feasible as I have failed a unit earlier this year.
Currently, the most optimal (I know, not very optimal) pathway looks to be the Bbiomedsc at UoN whilst continuing to try for WSU and UNSW through UCAT.
Thank you and I appreciate your help in advance!
I'm not sure what your purpose is in doing this^. If it is to gain an interview with UCAT rural cutoff I believe you only get that after completing or in final year(?) of the Bbiomedsc.
You are eligible for JMP with your current 5.1 if you sit UCAT this or next year. But 5.1 is not enough for WSU, you'll need to do a 6.5+ semester of a new degree, or 6.2+ full year. Not sure about UNSW since I don't know if they will take a higher GPA or combine it with the 5.1, if the latter I don't think you can raise it to 6.5+ to be competitive. Good luck.
Assuming you are currently Y12 have a look in this table, not been updated since 2020 but the general info is still true
> [Undergrad] - (2020 Updated) Med schools Selection Criteria Y12s & Non-standards
(If you are uni student look in the table's Non-Standards section)
Then for the cutoffs for interview invites see in this post
> Post-UCAT Discussion 2022
Thanks for your help, I appreciate it. Just for some interstate unis like Curtin, UQ, etc, how much higher will the cutoffs be for an applicant from NSW, rather than the local states? Also for CQU's pathway program, do they take any interstate applications, or are these spots designated to QLD students only? Thanks for your help once again
